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I said it back when they picked someone from South America . . .Socialist at best . . .
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"Catholic" Christians, get out while there's still time. It's an oxymoron. The catholic leadership is corporately a false prophet and will burn. Don't let them take you along.


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I'm not Catholic, but if I were, I'd really have to question if I would stay one or investigate other paths. This Pope is a nutjob from day one. Any Pope that promotes a godless ideology like Socialism, has to be off his rocker.

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So what? Nobody listens to him about politics anyway.


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Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
The pope is the devil incarnate, along with all his pedophile priests.

Yep


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Don't know about that but he might kiss your feet. Seems he's taken a biblical gesture to a (just nuts) high art.

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Pope kisses feet of South Sudan’s leaders to encourage peace


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Originally Posted by nighthawk
Don't know about that but he might kiss your feet. Seems he's taken a biblical gesture to a (just nuts) high art.

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Pope kisses feet of South Sudan’s leaders to encourage peace



Well it is probably better that he has a foot fetish rather than have him wandering around fiddling little boys.


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Touché


Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

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Originally Posted by nighthawk
Don't know about that but he might kiss your feet. Seems he's taken a biblical gesture to a (just nuts) high art.

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Pope kisses feet of South Sudan’s leaders to encourage peace



But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven. 34Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn ‘A man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.…


Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

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Originally Posted by DMc
Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
The pope is the devil incarnate, along with all his pedophile priests.

Yep

+2....


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We’ve been saying it for hundreds of years:

Westminster Confession of Faith 25:6

vi. There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ; nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense, be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalts himself, in the Church, against Christ and all that is called God.


The biblical doctrine of the church revolves around Jesus Christ. He is the head of the church, which is His body, and He must have the preeminence (Col. 1:18). He has supreme authority (Col. 2:10). The church submits to Him as its Lord (Eph. 5:22-24). He is the source of our life (Eph. 4:15-16). When men claim to follow Christ but really follow their own personal notions or traditions and manmade rules and forms of worship, they are not holding the Head (Col. 2:18-23). Christ must always be first, or we have ceased to be the church of Christ.


One of the great heresies of the Roman Catholic Church is their exaltation of a man to the place of Christ. The Pope or Bishop of Rome takes the title "Vicar of Jesus Christ," meaning that he acts as Christ's representative, ruling as the supreme head of the church on earth. He is also called "Pontifex Maximus," meaning supreme or great high priest (Lev. 21:10, Vulgate), but the Bible says our great high priest is Jesus, the Son of God (Heb. 4:14). Invoking the authority of Peter, the Pope claims to speak infallibly on matters of faith or life, placing his own words on the level of the words of Christ.

It may surprise modern readers that the Westminster Confession calls the Pope the Antichrist. Today the Antichrist is popularly conceived to be a great military leader who will rule the world with supernatural powers. But in the Scriptures, the word antichrist is used of false teachers who deny fundamental teachings of the faith. John wrote, "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists" (1 John 2:18; cf. 2:22; 4:3; 2 John 7).

The Lord Jesus warned that "false Christs, and false prophets" will come (Matt. 24:24). Paul foretold that the coming of the "man of sin, the son of perdition" who would exalt himself to the place of God in the temple (2 Thess. 2:3-4). The Westminster divines believed (and make a good case for their beliefs in their frequent writings on this subject!) that the office of the Papacy (not any one individual Pope) fulfilled these prophecies, asserting its claim to rule the universal church, which is the New Testament temple of God (1 Cor. 3:16).

Thus the Westminster Confession closes its chapter on the church with a solemn warning. Christ alone is the head of His church. He who dares to usurp Christ's place becomes an enemy of Christ. The confession of the true church has ever been, "Jesus is Lord!" It was this conviction that led early Christians to choose death rather than to worship the emperor of Rome, and the same conviction strengthens the church in every age. The blessed hope of the church is the return of her King, and her prayer is ever, "Come, Lord Jesus!"

Dr. Joel Beeke is the President and Professor of Systematic Theology and Homiletics at Puritan Reformed Theological Seminary and pastor of Heritage Netherlands Reformed Congregation in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

http://www.reformation21.org/confession/2013/07/chapter-256.php

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Originally Posted by nighthawk
The pope's wrong, unfettered capitalism is the way to go. [sarcasm]

Ten hour work days, six day weeks, get sick and miss a day and you're unemployed, a truly minimum subsistence wage (if the kids and wife work too), no benefits of any kind, child labor, unsafe working conditions, maiming and death if you dare complain and try to organize, and so on. See Industrial Revolution, particularly in England.

Will agree a lot of those guys go too far but it's not of evil intent. They are pretty big on that love your neighbor thing.

That's the way is was in the US in years past. That's why the unions got strong. They were needed at the time. The problem is that after the problems were fixed, they couldn't give up their power and wealth.


Bingo. Serving two masters ....

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Originally Posted by RickyD
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Always amazingly easy to prescribe sacrifices to other people.

It's never amazingly easy to understand what you mean. Are you suggesting I am prescribing sacrifices for other people? If so, what sacrifices and for who?


Im afraid at the end of the day many will find they sacrificed to the wrong father. The nonbelievers will know their fate as they approach the White Throne of Judgement.

It wont be them who will be surprised and gnashing teeth at finding they cast His words away for those of Jose.

Many will come in my name....

Some will say I am on the Mount or that i am in the inner sanctum.

Pinch yourself. If you are a believer and can feel it, He aint here.


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I absolutely agree..........there are going to be a lot of surprised ‘christians’.


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Originally Posted by RickyD
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Always amazingly easy to prescribe sacrifices to other people.

It's never amazingly easy to understand what you mean. Are you suggesting I am prescribing sacrifices for other people? If so, what sacrifices and for who?



More like the man is suggesting that the idiot pope and others of his ilk seem far to quick to have others sacrifice and tighten their belt whilst remaining seated at the banquet table themselves.

Which is par for the course for those lefty types.

I believe you are probably correct. Thank you.



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Originally Posted by jaguartx
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In recent times, the Catholic Church has become more of a business institution, than a religious institution...

If so they're extraordinarily bad at it.


How many billions in land, stocks, gold, commercial property,.....?
I don't know the numbers, but the RC church had a long record of conning wealthy widows into willing their estates to the church.


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Why don't you and tzone fill us in on the crucial things that supercede having a communist antichrist at the helm of the Catholic church? [/quote]

Ricky, i think you are more scripturally knowledgeable and more capable of doing that that than myself.

All i could offer is read the Bible and pray for guidance and dont let someone else distract you with their idea or fallible
interpretation.


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Just a few points and opinions...
I was raised a Byzantine Rite (Eastern) Catholic. My father was Ukrainian and mother Slovak. Our priests have always been allowed to marry and you don't hear about pedophilia in the Eastern Rite. It may be there but nowhere near as much as in the Roman Rite.
There are two kinds of priests-- Order priests and diocesan priest. Order priest are usually monks first, such as Franciscans and Benedictines and take a vow of poverty and live a much simpler life. Diocesan priests are sent to the seminary and made priests by their diocese. They seem to be the main culprits in the scandal.
Here is how I think it all came about. "Little Jimmy" is raised in a strict Catholic family and realizes after puberty that he has "sick" thoughts. He likes little boys. He decides on a course of action that he believes will "kill two birds with one stone". He decides to become a priest. This will make his religious family proud of him and get rid of the question of why he doesn't like girls/women. He also believes that since he devoting his life to God, God will make him stop having these perverted thoughts.
The problem is, he's in the seminary and the thoughts don't stop. He discusses it with his fellow friend seminarians and finds that a sizable minority of them also think the same way. They form a pact to protect each other as they rise through the ranks. They are a large enough group that even the individual "straight" priests are too afraid to confront them. Soon, some are bishops and cardinals and nobody messes with them.
Even the dioceses that have "named names" haven't released any from the past 10-15 years, the ones whose statute of limitations hasn't run out yet. They're still protecting each other.
That's why I've become an "independent religious person". I still act like a moral person but don't really feel the need to belong to any organized religion.

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Originally Posted by efw
We’ve been saying it for hundreds of years:

Westminster Confession of Faith 25:6

vi. There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ; nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense, be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalts himself, in the Church, against Christ and all that is called God.


The biblical doctrine of the church revolves around Jesus Christ. He is the head of the church, which is His body, and He must have the preeminence (Col. 1:18). He has supreme authority (Col. 2:10). The church submits to Him as its Lord (Eph. 5:22-24). He is the source of our life (Eph. 4:15-16). When men claim to follow Christ but really follow their own personal notions or traditions and manmade rules and forms of worship, they are not holding the Head (Col. 2:18-23). Christ must always be first, or we have ceased to be the church of Christ.

One of the great heresies of the Roman Catholic Church is their exaltation of a man to the place of Christ. The Pope or Bishop of Rome takes the title "Vicar of Jesus Christ," meaning that he acts as Christ's representative, ruling as the supreme head of the church on earth. He is also called "Pontifex Maximus," meaning supreme or great high priest (Lev. 21:10, Vulgate), but the Bible says our great high priest is Jesus, the Son of God (Heb. 4:14). Invoking the authority of Peter, the Pope claims to speak infallibly on matters of faith or life, placing his own words on the level of the words of Christ.

One of the great heresies of the Roman Catholic Church is their exaltation of a man to the place of Christ. The Pope or Bishop of Rome takes the title "Vicar of Jesus Christ," meaning that he acts as Christ's representative, ruling as the supreme head of the church on earth. He is also called "Pontifex Maximus," meaning supreme or great high priest (Lev. 21:10, Vulgate), but the Bible says our great high priest is Jesus, the Son of God (Heb. 4:14). Invoking the authority of Peter, the Pope claims to speak infallibly on matters of faith or life, placing his own words on the level of the words of Christ.

It may surprise modern readers that the Westminster Confession calls the Pope the Antichrist. Today the Antichrist is popularly conceived to be a great military leader who will rule the world with supernatural powers. But in the Scriptures, the word antichrist is used of false teachers who deny fundamental teachings of the faith. John wrote, "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists" (1 John 2:18; cf. 2:22; 4:3; 2 John 7).

The Lord Jesus warned that "false Christs, and false prophets" will come (Matt. 24:24). Paul foretold that the coming of the "man of sin, the son of perdition" who would exalt himself to the place of God in the temple (2 Thess. 2:3-4). The Westminster divines believed (and make a good case for their beliefs in their frequent writings on this subject!) that the office of the Papacy (not any one individual Pope) fulfilled these prophecies, asserting its claim to rule the universal church, which is the New Testament temple of God (1 Cor. 3:16).

Thus the Westminster Confession closes its chapter on the church with a solemn warning. Christ alone is the head of His church. He who dares to usurp Christ's place becomes an enemy of Christ. The confession of the true church has ever been, "Jesus is Lord!" It was this conviction that led early Christians to choose death rather than to worship the emperor of Rome, and the same conviction strengthens the church in every age. The blessed hope of the church is the return of her King, and her prayer is ever, "Come, Lord Jesus!"

Dr. Joel Beeke is the President and Professor of Systematic Theology and Homiletics at Puritan Reformed Theological Seminary and pastor of Heritage Netherlands Reformed Congregation in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

http://www.reformation21.org/confession/2013/07/chapter-256.php


Thanks for posting, efw!


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