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I want an exit every time Me too, but it seems nothing is foolproof. I'll settle for "exits most of the time" pertaining to shots without hard angles.
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That said, I'd avoid anything sierra and the SST in the .300 Win Mag unless you don't mind a wound that looks like Madonna's crotch.
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I said something about the SST being too fragile a while back and some guy acted like I had shot the pope. Refused to believe it. Anyway, I have gone to 150 grain Barnes TTSX bullets for my 308. I do not reload for my 300 Win Mag and found the Federal Trophy Copper shoots really well in it. No game shot with the Trophy Copper, though. I have been reloading Barnes TSX and TTSX bullets for my 308 and 35 Whelen for several years now and never had an issue. I see no reason to change.
Anyone tried the Hornady GMX in the 308? I use the 110 grain GMX in the 300 Blackout and it has performed very well on both deer and hogs.
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no to the hornady, but I concur on the SST being fragile. I had a bad experience a few (10) years back, and my mom did this past season. they may be fine for many, but empirical evidence to me says stay away, there are plenty of other options. hence why I go with the VLD's and NBT's for hunting. no cup and core, sst or ttsx (although those that use the ttsx I've seen worked great). I just haven't had reason to change. I hand load everything though so my preference might not work for everyone.
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I’d use a 155 Scenar in all of them. Buy a few thousand of the same lot number and you’d be set....
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nosler partition,nosler accubond or hornady interlock in whatever caliber or weight you want. i'd pick whichever out of those (3) shot the best in my particular rifle and not look back. i too prefer an entry and exit due to wayyy easier blood trails if the animal runs. if'n ya like to take out the front axles then the (3) i recommended will suit that too. good luck, Ed
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150gr Hornady Interlocks - in your .308. Accurate and cheap enough that you can shoot lots of them in practice so when you need one for real you will be ready. Unless the Whitetails you are shooting are as big as elk, then go with the 180's.
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150gr Hornady Interlocks - in your .308. Accurate and cheap enough that you can shoot lots of them in practice so when you need one for real you will be ready. Unless the Whitetails you are shooting are as big as elk, then go with the 180's. It can't be that simple. IT CAN'T BE.
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150gr Hornady Interlocks - in your .308. Accurate and cheap enough that you can shoot lots of them in practice so when you need one for real you will be ready. Unless the Whitetails you are shooting are as big as elk, then go with the 180's. It can't be that simple. IT CAN'T BE. K.I.S.S. of death.
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150gr Hornady Interlocks - in your .308. Accurate and cheap enough that you can shoot lots of them in practice so when you need one for real you will be ready. Unless the Whitetails you are shooting are as big as elk, then go with the 180's. It can't be that simple. IT CAN'T BE. Yep it can. Embrace the simplicity.
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30 caliber ??
Anything other than paper thin jacketed vermin bullets.........… Newsflash : Whitetails are pretty fragile critters and die really easy with a well-placed ANTHING .30 caliber.
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i have used only two brand bullets for deer hunting Nosler Partions or Swift A-Frame , the last 25 years both brands are 100 grain in my 257 Weatherby Mags. i just hunt bigger bucks these days out west and in Minnesota,sometimes i don`t even fill my Minnesota tag every year, since i try to just take a larger buck. i also believe speed kills as Roy Weatherby said when Roy wrote about his cartridges that he invented.
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150's and 165's in .308 and haven't had any take a step. However, this year buddy of mine worked of some hand loads with Nosler 125 BT (green tips) at 3180 fps. Said he uses them under 400 yrd shots and their devastating due to the velocities. I'll found out this year.
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I hear ya 340.....I rarely have a deer run more than 5 to 10 or so yards, with about any bullet, exit or not, when hit on the shoulder or tight behind it. A far back lung or liver hit and they'll often run a 100-200 yards, if that far, then bed down.
I am always amazed when people tell me a solidly hit deer runs 100 or more yards. Elk running downhill maybe, but not deer. That's just not been my experience.
Heavy for caliber bullets do seem to hit harder, but lighter bullets up close when they still have their speed have treated me well.
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I'm generally aiming between C and D somewhere, which works well with cup/cores and bonded bullets, although things do tend to run a little bit. Add some angle in there and catch a shoulder, and stuff is less likely to run so much. In my experience, the mono-bullets seem to work better with the shoulder shots between C and B.
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This year I have narrowed my deer bullets down to the 117 gr. Sierra BTSP out of my Roberts, the 145 gr. Speer BTSP out of my 7-08, the 150 gr. Speer flat nose out of my 30-30 improved. Oops forgot the 270 is in the lineup, 130 gr. Sierra BTSP.
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I aim between D and A trying to be a little back of the shoulder, but still have enough shock to stun the spine. by the time the game can get their legs under them they bleed out. the result is DRT most of the time and little meat damage. I too use the same load for elk as Deer, elk aren't bullet proof or armor clad like many think. I've killed them with bullets as small as 6mm in diameter (95 gr NBT) and 90 grains of weight (25-06). both elk were DRT as well.
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Draw a line from A - C and D - B.
X marks that spot I try to aim. It's pretty forgiving and they often drop within sight or on the spot. I have shot a few bucks that took off for some distance after the shot. One was a marginal shot that hit the liver. One was on the shoulder from 10 yards. He went 80 yards on 3 legs and died without much blood except where he died.
I've shot them with bullets from .223 on up to .30 cal.
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hit the deer with a 358 win, 250 grain or 350 grain from a 450 marlin caliber rifle and place it in that (X) you've described and you'll seldom find you have any issues, yes the 257 roberts and 30/06 BLR work just fine , both are lethal, but I've personally got a bit more confidence in the heavier projectile and larger caliber options. with potential tracking, or deer running more than a few steps, the more I hunt with the 358 win and 450 marlin chambered BLR carbines the more impressed Ive become I sight all my rifles in to impact 3.5" higher than the cross hair in the scope indicates at 100 yards this allows a very easy no calculations required hold, for consistent shot placement, in the first 150- 200 yards where an easy 75-80%, of all the deer and elk Ive shot for decades are shot at
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