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Shot it in any position other than on the bench to assure eye relief will work in a field environment? Prone off a pack and sitting off a pack as well as sitting arms on my knees and of course standing unsupported. Likley some part of a function of shooting with a suppressor knocks down some of the recall as well and it’s only shooting 130 elds at just under 2800 fps isn’t a crazy recoil generator even in a 5.6 pound scoped/suppressed rifle. Hope that helps.
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Finally took the plunge and got my hands on one of these. Glad I did and ignored the concerns about eye relief. Once I saw Mule Deer post about it not being as bad as its being made out to be I picked one up. 3 shots from bore sight to sight in (should have been two but yours truly adjusted the windage the wrong direction between #1 and #2 shot like an idiot. Anyways eye relief is a non issue for me on this rifle granted its a little 6.5 CM but still for a niche rifle like this is a perfect fit. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/3K0qnKq.jpg) Even comes in under advertised weight  ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/2Dqa5fp.jpg) What is that rifle. Am I reading the scale right at 4lb 13.1 oz.? I love toting lightweight rifles. That is why I like single shots. Looks like that would be a joy to carry. Yeah it’s 4.1 pounds ( 4 pounds 2 oz naked) but it used to be 3 pounds 9 oz when it was a 358 win and a fluted barrel. I went with a slightly heavier contour, haven’t fluted the barrel yet, and of course going from a 358 diameter bore to a 264 diameter leaves a lot more metal (weight) on the barrel. But I can now suppress it and it is a bit kinder in recoil so it’s all a trade off. Was that rebarrel job done by the fellow out here in the valley? Thinking about having a rifle rebarreled
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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I am really thinking about one of these for the 358 Winchester
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Apparently, the version of the 2.5-10x32 SS with BDC reticle just landed at SWFA, so they have all three types in stock:
- original 2.5-20x32 with Plex reticle and 100 yard parallax
- new rimfire version with Plex reticle and 50 yard parallax
- new BDC reticle version with 150 yard parallax.
When I tested the prototype of the BDC reticle, I thought there was just a touch more parallax error at 500 yards than I liked, so I asked the to make it set for 150 yard. That should make the BDC tree work better.
I'll take a look at a production scope with BDC reticle next week.
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Might have to give one a try with the BDC.
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Apparently, the version of the 2.5-10x32 SS with BDC reticle just landed at SWFA, so they have all three types in stock:
- original 2.5-20x32 with Plex reticle and 100 yard parallax
- new rimfire version with Plex reticle and 50 yard parallax
- new BDC reticle version with 150 yard parallax.
When I tested the prototype of the BDC reticle, I thought there was just a touch more parallax error at 500 yards than I liked, so I asked the to make it set for 150 yard. That should make the BDC tree work better.
I'll take a look at a production scope with BDC reticle next week.
ILya Do you have the subtensions for that reticle? I poked around a little on SWFA's site but couldn't find them.
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Thanks, Ilya, I've been waiting for that.
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Apparently, the version of the 2.5-10x32 SS with BDC reticle just landed at SWFA, so they have all three types in stock:
- original 2.5-20x32 with Plex reticle and 100 yard parallax
- new rimfire version with Plex reticle and 50 yard parallax
- new BDC reticle version with 150 yard parallax.
When I tested the prototype of the BDC reticle, I thought there was just a touch more parallax error at 500 yards than I liked, so I asked the to make it set for 150 yard. That should make the BDC tree work better.
I'll take a look at a production scope with BDC reticle next week.
ILya Do you have the subtensions for that reticle? I poked around a little on SWFA's site but couldn't find them. ![[Linked Image]](https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-N7cthv4/0/ecced857/L/i-N7cthv4-L.jpg)
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Thanks, Ilya, I've been waiting for that. I fully agree with that. I like compact scopes and this little bugger has really been growing on me. Besides, so far these seem to be holding up very nicely. ILya
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ILya,
Good news on the BDC reticle. Am looking forward to your report.
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I have used a lot of different scopes on various rifles. I have never had a scope get me, under any circumstances. I have always been puzzled on how people keep getting hammered by a recoiling scope. I tend to think that longer eye relief may not make a difference, if you are mounted wrong on the rifle. They shoot off bags until a hunt requires them to lean forward over something in a position approaching prone or a sharp uphill shot with their scope closer to their nose or brow.
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Finally took the plunge and got my hands on one of these. Glad I did and ignored the concerns about eye relief. Once I saw Mule Deer post about it not being as bad as its being made out to be I picked one up. 3 shots from bore sight to sight in (should have been two but yours truly adjusted the windage the wrong direction between #1 and #2 shot like an idiot. Anyways eye relief is a non issue for me on this rifle granted its a little 6.5 CM but still for a niche rifle like this is a perfect fit. Even comes in under advertised weight Man, I'd have trouble keeping that rig from trying to stick to me.
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What does this scope offer better than a M8 6x36?
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ILya,
Good news on the BDC reticle. Am looking forward to your report. I've played with the prototype, so I have some mileage with the reticle. I just want to see it in a proper production scope. They did a clever thing with the reticle by making the lines in the holdover portion of the reticle thinner than the primary aiming point. That way, the main aiming dot stands out a little better and the whole thing really works well in low light. My only contribution to this scope is the 150 yard parallax. I could never figure out why hunting scopes with BDC reticle are not focused a little further out. It really helps with parallax when you are using holdover, while at closer distances, the difference is negligible, especially on lower power. ILya
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SU35,
Adjusts easily and correctly.
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SU35,
Adjusts easily and correctly. Ouch.
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What does this scope offer better than a M8 6x36?
Well for a start it has 2.5 and 10 power options, and a better reticle than any thing out of Beaverton
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I have a lightweight 22 that I want to put the rimfire version on, but I'm kind of holding out for a BDC rimfire version. Any word/rumors on something like that?
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I have a lightweight 22 that I want to put the rimfire version on, but I'm kind of holding out for a BDC rimfire version. About word/rumors on something like that? Not that I am aware of. ILya
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Apparently, the version of the 2.5-10x32 SS with BDC reticle just landed at SWFA, so they have all three types in stock:
- original 2.5-20x32 with Plex reticle and 100 yard parallax
- new rimfire version with Plex reticle and 50 yard parallax
- new BDC reticle version with 150 yard parallax.
When I tested the prototype of the BDC reticle, I thought there was just a touch more parallax error at 500 yards than I liked, so I asked the to make it set for 150 yard. That should make the BDC tree work better.
I'll take a look at a production scope with BDC reticle next week.
ILya Do you have the subtensions for that reticle? I poked around a little on SWFA's site but couldn't find them. Thanks! It is interesting that the top and side posts are heavier and it will help in low light. The lower post and associated drops are thin enough to help with precision at longer distances. I need to pick one up and give it a go.....
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