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I guess they don't do PT at West Point anymore....too many lard azzez in the picture. Pathetic ! !
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Question???? Are things like Saratoga, Chancellorsville, Austerlitz, Meuse- Argonne, even mentioned at the USMA anymore? Are such things studied in any detail??? Honest question.
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Question???? Are things like Saratoga, Chancellorsville, Austerlitz, Meuse- Argonne, even mentioned at the USMA anymore? Are such things studied in any detail??? Honest question.
A former instructor there says it is very much screwed up. I remember seeing his letter somewhere, but I can't remember where. An assistant professor at West Point for several years, retired LTC Robert M. Heffington, wrote an open letter that alleges corruption, cheating, and failing standards inside the military service academy.
The letter floated around in private amongst military circles for a few days before Heffington confirmed to American Military News that he wrote the letter and sent the news outlet a signed copy on Wednesday.
Heffington wrote the letter in response to the recent news that a West Point graduate and infantry officer — 2nd Lt. Spenser Rapone — publicly advocated for communism and was an “official socialist organizer” of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA).
In the letter, Heffington slams West Point saying he isn’t sure the academy should even remain open at this point due to nonexistent academic standards, deteriorating curriculum, lies from administrators, failing disciplinary standards, and the erosion of the cadet honor code.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/22192/former-west-point-professor-accuses-service-ryan-saavedra
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Question???? Are things like Saratoga, Chancellorsville, Austerlitz, Meuse- Argonne, even mentioned at the USMA anymore? Are such things studied in any detail??? Honest question.
Or better yet . . . do these gals even know which is the pointy end of the swords they are holding?
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They're looking awfully slack to me.
Bearing, Military. (1) The element of outward appearance of a serviceman (clean and correctly arranged uniform, properly worn and adjusted equipment, manner of behavior in and out of formation) imparting a brisk military outward appearance to the individual and the entire detachment.
The leader that lacks a strong military bearing also risks losing the trust, confidence and most important, the respect of their Soldiers and superiors as well.
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Congratulations would be in order if we didn’t know that a path was cleared for all of them to take the place of better qualified white male applicants. Ding ding ding!!!! Winner winner chicken dinner!!!!
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I bet half of em are congressional district appointees.
And these are the ones that " passed" for the year group.
So the numbers admitted were probably alot higher that year group
Some of em are probably academic recycles that went into another year group.
Some probably prior service Usma prep school appointments
Some might even be squared away officers in soft shell job feilds
And I definately see a couple of "DFB,s"
Disgusting fat bodies....
But the thugg life photo is a buncha bullschitt.
Throw in hank Johnson and shelia Jackson lee and Maxine waters appointing a nominee for west point as an examples.....
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So no chance that “some” of them are just bad ass hard working patriotic females that want to serve the greatest country in the world?
Dang.
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![[Linked Image]](https://today.citadel.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/women.jpg) If this was the old days, these would be your clerks, supply wonks, cooks, dispersing tellers, admin officers and ferry pilots.
Instead it is in your face, full steam ahead with assignments to the combat arms. Everyone knows that Gen. Walters was able
to reach the zenith of his career, unlike his peers who were tossed under the bus for refusing to eliminate proven, traditional
military standards, by swallowing, hook, line and sinker, the Obama era mandates for open sodomy, transvestites, and
women in the combat arms.It was his efforts as the head of the Marine Corps task force created in the wake of the “Marines United” scandal, however, that may have the most lasting and significant impact on the Marine Corps of today. The scandal broke in early 2017 and revealed a significant social media presence of active-duty and veteran male Marines who denigrated their female counterparts through the unauthorized sharing of photos and the posting of demeaning and degrading comments about the presence of women in the Corps. General Robert B. Neller, Commandant of the Marine Corps, created the task force to address the cultural issues in the Marine Corps which led to not only the misconduct but the acceptance and tolerance for behavior clearly not in keeping with the Marine Corps’ core values of honor, courage and commitment.
The ACMC has headed the task force since its establishment and has worked with Marines of all ranks to update training and regulations in order to send a clear message to all Marines as to what is appropriate and acceptable in the realm of social media. “While those changes address the immediate behavioral issue, we also remain committed to addressing and evolving our culture by changing the way we educate, train, and lead our Marines—we will not tolerate a lack of respect for any member of our team,” said Walters.
The initial meetings of the task force were especially enlightening for the four-star general. “We unpacked it all in those first couple of meetings.” Meetings that were supposed to last an hour ended up surpassing the four and a half hour mark as the ACMC ensured that everyone, from the most junior Marine present to the sergeants major and generals, had an opportunity to provide input. “We had to get it all on the table. And then once it was all on the table and all of us were exhausted, we had to sort through it. Make sense of it. Organize it. And decide what we’re going to do with it.”
In its first six months of existence, the task force was instrumental in publishing guidance on social media misconduct including a “Leaders’ Handbook and Discussion Guide” and ALMARs and other messages providing guidance to all Marines to ensure they have a clear understanding of the issue, are able to identify what constitutes misconduct, and understand what actions, both punitive and administrative, are available for the Marines who continue to engage in such behavior. Of note, 160 persons of interest (22 civilians and 138 Marines) who have engaged in the egregious conduct on social media have been identified, and numerous courts martial, nonjudicial punishments and administrative separations have been conducted through mid-2018.
“I think it’s important to recognize that our understanding of the issue has evolved over time,” said Gen Walters. “How we handle cases today is much different and more effective as a result of what occurred with “Marines United.” Moving forward, we are planning to establish a permanent structure that can address all of the factors that contribute to the negative subculture that has allowed this behavior to exist.”
"All that the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth." – Robert E. Lee
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So no chance that “some” of them are just bad ass hard working patriotic females that want to serve the greatest country in the world?
Dang. 1000 to 1 odds - so yes there's a chance .
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
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The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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So no chance that “some” of them are just bad ass hard working patriotic females that want to serve the greatest country in the world?
Dang. Sure there is. But they didn't pose in this in-your-face-celebration-of-skin-color photo.
"All that the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth." – Robert E. Lee
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God Bless each and every one of them and service to this country . Yep. My comment was pure sarcasm , just saying .. IMO not one of them went into the service for love of country . This . I'd bet dollars to donuts they look at it as a check, bennies and a social statement and not service to the country. Oh. Maybe we didn't agree!
I am MAGA.
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There's nothing wrong with those wenches that 2 years op con to 1st Marine Recon wouldn't fix. They'd be dead or Americans, one way or the other.
I am..........disturbed.
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There's nothing wrong with those wenches that 2 years op con to 1st Marine Recon wouldn't fix. They'd be dead or Americans, one way or the other. 
"All that the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth." – Robert E. Lee
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I am sure they will all advance through the ranks based on skill and leadership qualities--
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I’m always concerned with a commissioning program that has some agenda other than having the best of the best lead our troops into battle.
However, anyone who thinks one’s ability to lead from the front is gender or race based is an idiot and needs to get out more.
And for every “I had a female....” or “I know this black guy....” story you can tell I can provide at least as many old white guy stories.
This from and old white guy with 42 years in uniform as an NCO and as an officer.
The NCO ranks and the officer ranks should always have been and should always be a meritocracy. Any deviation for any purpose will have unintended consequences that we’ll face at our own peril.
“Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils.” - General
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Beoceorl: I also wish to commend those young women for their intent to serve our nation.
But as a multi-time victim of affirmative action and seeing the harm that it led to (inferior people being hired/promoted/made excuses for etc etc etc!) - I would bet a one hundred dollar bill that there are about "34" more qualified persons who were "affirmatively" passed over to make room for these young women!
I do NOT blame them for this travesty I blame our courts and the liberal politicians that appointed/allowed them to be!
Again i commend the young black women for their intentions to serve the United States of America (that is no longer color blind or interested in equal justice!)!
Sad reminder of 29 (twenty nine!) years of my life where I dealt with the repercussions of "affirmative action" each and every day - many of my fellow officers referred to this system as "rig a jig a job"!
As crass and nearly vulgar as that sounds it was quite truthful.
GO TRUMP
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God forbid we ever have to really go to war again. 100% on target. Sad day for the country in that standards have been lowered to where they are. I'd be shocked that any of them could have gotten in on their merits 20 years ago. MM
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