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The 30-30 will never die

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I wonder if a pre-64 lever action is adequate for that?

That’s cool. It’d work perfectly in my 788. I might have to get a box. I never heard of Underwood ammo but they have some interesting loads and I’ll have to check them out later when I have time. Too busy with yard work and I could easily be distracted away from doing it.... 👍

Paco Kelly started hot rodding the 30-30 in modern lever actions quite a while ago.

Interesting article.

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/3030again.htm

I know for example the Hodgdon reloading data on page 314 of their #26 manual for the 100 grain bullet with 33 grains of H4198 gives 2837 fps from their 24 inch barrel. But that load only generates 32,000 CUP! Why are we stopping short? With 36 grains of the same powder we break 3150 fps and are running 39,500 cup. Sierra makes a superb 125 grain H.P. #2020 for the 30-30. Hodgdon states that 38 grains of H335 gives 2643 fps and 35,400 CUP with 125-130 grain bullets. Why stop short? 40 grains of H335 and the Sierra bullet will give 2975 fps and at a cost of 39,600 CUP. And that load will put deer down extremely fast.

Would that be use once brass? I wonder what the pressure is? Non canister powder?

I suspect the 3000 fps is (ahem) a misprint.

Unless they've discovered some secret powder that's eluded everyone else. In that case, they would offer ammo in a lot more calibers. They don't claim high velocities in the other calibers they offer.

At $51 a box, I wouldn't want to buy many.

In Pet Loads Ken Waters did extensive testing with the 30-30 and chose 150 grain bullets and RL-7 propellant.

The Speer 150 grain FP has the best ballistic coefficient of any flat nosed bullet suitable for the 30-30.

For once I’m not trying to start or contribute to a pissing contest concerning the 30 WCF. I always appreciate another player in the game of keeping the 30-30 alive.

If you are actually a skilled hunter that can get within reasonable and fair distance of his game, it is all a man needs. If you shoot an animal over 200 yards or over bait, you just ain’t hunting.

I already have my favorite 30-30 load.

Thanks, B.

I think a 130TTSX at 2700-3000fps would work just fine. It’d be a rimmed .308. 😉

It seems the solid copper bullets have less friction than traditional jacketed. Then the newer powders are opening other doors to performance.

All the chamberings are benefitting from the newer technologies.

Still, they might have used a 24" or longer test barrel.

Or maybe just fibbed.

I'm gonna set up a corn pile at 201 yards, just for you.

That's always a possibility.

I've seen a lot of Underwood chrono checks by the customers (youtube stuff). Velocities are usually right where they are advertised, and often exceed that.

This is in the spirit of things, heck yeah

Exactly.

Look at the post of Bristoe's, two before your first post. Paco Kelly has been having some of the same fun with the 30-30.

I will not discuss .30-30 loads. But I will make this request: If you elect to shoot any Paco Kelly loads, please do so from behind a thick oak tree and with a string to the trigger.

Exactly. My 45-70 load throws 250 grain TSXs right at 2600 fps, and is right out of the Barnes manual.