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A coworker just purchased 2 complete upper receivers in 6.5 Grendel.
1) 18" stainless
2) 20" stainless.
He's getting sub-moa groups with both. 1/2" - 7/8" groups with hand loads.
So here is my question. Those of you that have actually purchased them, what are your real world experiences. I've seen both good and bad written about them. Some are just those that want to bad mouth but have no personal experience.
So, those of you that spent the money, what are your experiences and thoughts ?
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The next question you will be asked how many shots is he doing 3,5 or 10?
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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The groups he showed me were 5 shot groups.
His intention's are for coyotes. If you've not hit one within a 5 shot string, it'll be in the next county by then.
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I have a BCA complete upper in 223 Wylde. Problem is, I have yet to lay my hands on it and won't for another 56 days. I paid $189 shipped to Alaska, so I honestly don't expect 1/2" 3, 5, or 10 shot groups at 100 yards. From everything I have read, watched, etc. on them, some can get down to 1 1/4" 5 shot groups all the 8" plus at 100 yards. I will let you know what mine does when I finally get to take it the range.
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For the price point be worthwhile to see how they do. God only knows I blew couple hundred bucks on worse things.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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If they shoot good, that is great. I can think of a couple threads here where they can put their money where their mouth is.. Just sayin..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I bought a 7.62 a couple of weeks ago.I've run about 500 rounds through it without a flaw.Haven't tried any handloads or anything beyond cheap Russian steel,as I have a surplus of it from over the years.I've been impressed with the gun for the price I paid for it.It will shoot 1" groups.I'd have to say I'd buy another... There are a few idiots on here that will give you their impressions of BCA rifles that have probably never seen one,so I guess you need to factor their views in on a decision to make a purchase.Evidently,they're some true legends in the firearms industry...
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A coworker bought a Grendel barrel from them. He managed 4" groups.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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If they shoot good, that is great. I can think of a couple threads here where they can put their money where their mouth is.. Just sayin.. Thread kind of reminds me of a kimber/leupold thread..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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I bought a 7.62 a couple of weeks ago.I've run about 500 rounds through it without a flaw.Haven't tried any handloads or anything beyond cheap Russian steel,as I have a surplus of it from over the years.I've been impressed with the gun for the price I paid for it.It will shoot 1" groups.I'd have to say I'd buy another... There are a few idiots on here that will give you their impressions of BCA rifles that have probably never seen one,so I guess you need to factor their views in on a decision to make a purchase.Evidently,they're some true legends in the firearms industry... Not trying to single you out, but like I tell folks that claim to have an AR in 223/5.56 that shoots consistent all day long MOA at 100 with ball ammo... lets just say I've shot a bit. And I've NEVER seen ball ammo capable of true MOA. Sure a few groups now and then won't have fliers. But shoot a few more. top line barrels I've seen maybe average 7 of 10 shots into MOA. Give or take. Just making sure the other side of the story is out there. And of course if yours will shoot MOA with ball, then I need a few cases of that ball or your reload data. The projectiles hold it back, thats why Mexican match was invented
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Well if you've never seen it,then it's just not possible... You fellas on here are the biggest one-uppers I've come across in a long time.I'm not here looking for validity,pro-pointers,or trying to impress anyone.I mainly use this site scanning the classifieds,sometimes looking into the other pages.If someone has a question on something that I can help with,I may post on a thread.But I tend to keep my thoughts to myself.I'm a hunter,not a bench-rest shooter,but in about 55 years of shooting I've burnt some powder... I've owned,and still do,a myriad of different firearms.But the AR platform is new to me.Therefore,I don't pretend to know everything about it.But will gladly share my small experience with it,thus far.I know the benefits of hand-loads and premium ammo,but when you have several x39's that are far from target rifles,you don't hand-load for them... My time spent on the 'fire will be spent elsewhere from now on.What's found here,is not what I'm looking for.Y'all enjoy your discussions,and try to remember that we're all on the same side...
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The guy claiming that he shoots MOA groups with Russian steel case ammo is the guy accusing everyone else of being one-uppers.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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Well if you've never seen it,then it's just not possible... You fellas on here are the biggest one-uppers I've come across in a long time.I'm not here looking for validity,pro-pointers,or trying to impress anyone.I mainly use this site scanning the classifieds,sometimes looking into the other pages.If someone has a question on something that I can help with,I may post on a thread.But I tend to keep my thoughts to myself.I'm a hunter,not a bench-rest shooter,but in about 55 years of shooting I've burnt some powder... I've owned,and still do,a myriad of different firearms.But the AR platform is new to me.Therefore,I don't pretend to know everything about it.But will gladly share my small experience with it,thus far.I know the benefits of hand-loads and premium ammo,but when you have several x39's that are far from target rifles,you don't hand-load for them... My time spent on the 'fire will be spent elsewhere from now on.What's found here,is not what I'm looking for.Y'all enjoy your discussions,and try to remember that we're all on the same side... Wild guess here, if they are FAR from target rifles, they almost certainly not MOA with ball. Carry on. I know, wtf would a few of us know that have been around the platform and shot over 100K rounds through them, accurately most of the time
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Well if you've never seen it,then it's just not possible... You fellas on here are the biggest one-uppers I've come across in a long time.I'm not here looking for validity,pro-pointers,or trying to impress anyone.I mainly use this site scanning the classifieds,sometimes looking into the other pages.If someone has a question on something that I can help with,I may post on a thread.But I tend to keep my thoughts to myself.I'm a hunter,not a bench-rest shooter,but in about 55 years of shooting I've burnt some powder... I've owned,and still do,a myriad of different firearms.But the AR platform is new to me.Therefore,I don't pretend to know everything about it.But will gladly share my small experience with it,thus far.I know the benefits of hand-loads and premium ammo,but when you have several x39's that are far from target rifles,you don't hand-load for them... My time spent on the 'fire will be spent elsewhere from now on.What's found here,is not what I'm looking for.Y'all enjoy your discussions,and try to remember that we're all on the same side... So you are not looking for one of the most knowledgeable and helpful collections of shooters on The Fire?
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You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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The harder you DUMB Fhuqks try,the behinder you get.
Hint...……………………...
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I picked up a 6.5 Grendel BCA 18" barrel that does 2" at 100 yards and a 7.62x39 BCA barrel that does 1.5" at 100 yards. They are both good enough for deer hunting. My groups are probably more a product of the shooter that the barrel lol. I really like the 7.62x39 it is fun as hell to shoot.
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BCA claims their factory to be over 340,000 sq. ft., with 250 + employees. They must be selling a LOT of barrels to someone.
I'm sure somebody bought the same exact barrel because they thought it was QC'd by an "operator" using an x-ray microscope.
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Getting ready to slap one of their .223 Wylde, 8 twist parkerized 20 in inchers on an upper in the near future...Will see how it does with some Fed GMM 69's ( picked up 30 boxes for $5 a box, wish the guy had more..) For 80 bucks, I don't expect great things, but we'll see...
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Getting ready to slap one of their .223 Wylde, 8 twist parkerized 20 in inchers on an upper in the near future...Will see how it does with some Fed GMM 69's ( picked up 30 boxes for $5 a box, wish the guy had more..) For 80 bucks, I don't expect great things, but we'll see... You got an awesome deal on the ammo. Time will only tell on that barrel though... Post up your results after you get it, if you don't mind...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Getting ready to slap one of their .223 Wylde, 8 twist parkerized 20 in inchers on an upper in the near future...Will see how it does with some Fed GMM 69's ( picked up 30 boxes for $5 a box, wish the guy had more..) For 80 bucks, I don't expect great things, but we'll see... Please report your findings.
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