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Send Joel 20 bucks.
He will pray for you.
Send him 50 he will get word to God to forgive you.
Cause he is Joel and Joel knows.......

So what if ya dont go to church.
Some people dont need a snake oil salesman to tell em how to believe in a higher power....

Scheme since the dawn of time.
For power, control, and money.

And which bible is correct and which christian spin off is the correct one.
Hasn't man had influence in what goes into what bible version since the dawn of it all....
How can man arbitrarily decide what is gods word from documents written by other men.


What's that saying about judging others or your gonna get judged yourself.....

“A good argument can be made that God doesn't "send" people to Hell so much as they choose it. Free will. If a person is uncomfortable with offering worship and praise to God for 1 hour out of the 168 hours in a week, how would they feel about doing that constantly for an eternity?”
Obviously we have a different point of view on free will to choose and be punished for it. So choose my way or burn.
Lol.
Not surprised, that is opinion from a Brain washed bible thumper.

I ain't buying that. We are just as good as the Atheists that you did list on your title.

Fixed it for you Bowsinger.

I agree 100%



Obviously they would be more comfortable in Hell

if the one true god doesn't want one of his created beings to go to the bad place, he'll find a way to save him. otherwise, his created being has an important role to play there, so god assigns him to that location/condition/dimension. it's all so very simple.

no wonder humans have been kickin' false gods to the side of the road for centuries now.

You’ve been sand bagging all this time, Gus.

i learnt sandbagging at ft. hood, back in the day.

drinking some old forester & sandbagging.

it don't hardly get no better.

The Holy Bible



I call it warning and passing along valid information. I don’t consider that judging. Just passing along what has taken many years to learn through failure, sin, guilt, chastisement from God, prayer, & studying/reading His Word.

https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-on-judging/

Ft Knox here...old Milwaukee

Ravi used to be a good guy but he started compromising with total heretics.
Not good.
And then there is the big big money...
Not the apostle Paul.
Don't mean to be a Debbie downer, but honestly do some research on his apostasy and you will find it.

I’ll look into it but just remember, we all fail we all make mistakes and there will always be lies told as well as haters.

Todays Monday, aren't you supposed to go to church on Sundays....Saturdays for wedding and getting the kids dipped?

NYH1.

Yes indeed... but
His compromises are real.
I used to like him.

due to the conditions in which we found ourselves, we were required to get married on a sunday afternoon.

a quick honeymoon and back to the structure that johnson and his crowd had set up for me.

it doesn't matter much which day one is married. what's important is that one follows the rules.

the rules as set down by the us government. otherwise, why even have a gov't of any kind?

the Mighty Sky-god YHWH had it all set down, 10 commandments and all.

but somebody said we couldn't follow the rules. so something else?

how about make it all up as we go? that works, doesn't it?

He formed his own Toronto-based ministry, Ravi Zacharias International Ministries, in 1984 and is the host of radio shows called “Let My People Think” and “Just Thinking,” all of which has helped him pocket a net worth of $7.5 million.Sep 14, 2016
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Any preacher with a net worth of 7.5 million dollars has completely missed the point of Jesus teachings. Anyone that promotes said Charlatans has also completely missed the point.

I think most people understand that people die of natural causes, disease, accidents etc. this is simply the reality of life that anyone must recognize regardless of their belief system -- and all of these take place within the natural laws of science as ordained by God. Sometimes God allows the laws of cause and effect to run their course and sometimes He miraculously intervenes.

Murder, genocide, mass killings are something completely different and most reasonable people would agree--which is why we have laws against such actions. These are based on the choices of evil men acting in accordance with their will. When looking at the horrors committed in the name of religion and the horrors committed in the name of atheism a reasonable person would conclude that mankind in general has a propensity in their nature to be selfish and evil unless they curb it. A child does not need to be taught to be selfish it's inherently there--but they need to be taught self discipline and morals.

Jesus Christ was the expression of the model of a man that God has given for our lives. You will not find any record of Him committing the atrocities being noted. Man with moral religion can still be very evil (Jesus noted that), man without any moral restraint will become more evil (Atheistic Communism has proven that). Jesus has provided the answer for mankind--in dealing with their evil inclinations and giving guidance for life.

Blaming God for reality as you perceive it changes nothing about reality--reality remains the same. But when you reject God because you cannot control Him, you choose to embrace something far worse -- random meaninglessness.

Furthermore you cannot charge God of anything unless you believe in His existence--but if you believe in His existence as truly God, then you as a man cannot call Him into judgment unless you have superior knowledge to do so, otherwise it's like a little child with their limited understanding trying to dismiss the loving guidance of parents.

You blame God for giving men freewill, but then you in turn exercise that freewill to reject God. How can you logically condemn what you at the same exercise as your right? You blame God for making man stupid, but then you assume yourself to be wiser then God.

The witness to truth is both internal--from the Scriptures and also externally corroborated by world history fulfilling the prophecies of Scripture. Both are essential to study if you truly want the truth. Since Ravi is being called into question on this thread, I would note that the presentations of Ravi typically follows those principles of presenting both internal and external witnesses. To my knowledge Ravi does not use the wealth of His ministry supported by the freewill offerings of men to serve himself, but rather he uses those resources to serve others. Ultimately his ministry will be accounted for by God.

While the professing "Church" has done some horrible things through the years that did not model Christ, the "true Church," in spite of it's failures, has modeled Christ in serving and helping others with no benefit to themselves.

No matter how many times the truth is used for selfish purposes it still remains the truth. Math is always math--some people use it to swindle others and some use it to bless others--but math is still always math.

Mystical? Are we overlooking the historical evidence for the man Jesus Christ -- such as from the secular historians and even the secular critics of that era?

Can you define your definition of "true Church".
Just for clarification I am a believer in both God and Jesus, but I am also a believer in the fact that you can dress an Ape up in a tuxedo, but it is still an Ape. I do not know of many Non-501C3 churches in this country and those that are have taken a bribe for benefit and for no other reason. They, in full knowledge gives the Gov. the right to head the church and censor what they want censored. Therefore I am curious what church you are calling the "true church" and is modeling Christ. I don't see many of them targeting the money lenders along with some other "affairs of state".
As I've said, I am curious and hoping there is such in this country besides those who are worshiping and doing His will in secret.

Thunderstick, that's Post-of-the-Year material!