Please don't mention any names ending in "stein", "witz", "berg" and such and we can probably make for a good discussion...
I just don't trust Patton because he wore a SAA instead of a 1911. Then again he did shoot down that airplane with a 1911 in the movie so I guess he's okay.
Please don't mention any names ending in "stein", "witz", "berg" and such and we can probably make for a good discussion...
I just don't trust Patton because he wore a SAA instead of a 1911. Then again he did shoot down that airplane with a 1911 in the movie so I guess he's okay.
I think he shot at an airplane in the movie, but didn't shoot it down.
Please don't mention any names ending in "stein", "witz", "berg" and such and we can probably make for a good discussion...
I just don't trust Patton because he wore a SAA instead of a 1911. Then again he did shoot down that airplane with a 1911 in the movie so I guess he's okay.
That was an '03 Hammerless.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
Please don't mention any names ending in "stein", "witz", "berg" and such and we can probably make for a good discussion...
I just don't trust Patton because he wore a SAA instead of a 1911. Then again he did shoot down that airplane with a 1911 in the movie so I guess he's okay.
That was an '03 Hammerless.
EL CORRECTO, but he didn't shoot it down...
Last edited by jorgeI; 06/26/19.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
I remember watching that movie “Brass Target” as a kid and the only thing I remember about it was a specially designed airgun that broke Patton’s neck. So, I find that part of the story on Target Patton to be suspect.
Like I said, it’s really a lot more interesting in describing the conditions over there at the immediate end of the war than anything.
Please don't mention any names ending in "stein", "witz", "berg" and such and we can probably make for a good discussion...
I just don't trust Patton because he wore a SAA instead of a 1911. Then again he did shoot down that airplane with a 1911 in the movie so I guess he's okay.
That was an '03 Hammerless.
EL CORRECTO, but he didn't shoot it down...
I didn't want to give two corrections in one post.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
I think it was this book that said that the reason he carried SAA instead of a 1911 was because of a negligent discharge he had in a Mexican saloon while carrying a 1911 in his belt.
Please don't mention any names ending in "stein", "witz", "berg" and such and we can probably make for a good discussion...
I just don't trust Patton because he wore a SAA instead of a 1911. Then again he did shoot down that airplane with a 1911 in the movie so I guess he's okay.
That was an '03 Hammerless.
EL CORRECTO, but he didn't shoot it down...
I didn't want to give two corrections in one post.
How very Goy of you....
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
I remember watching that movie “Brass Target” as a kid and the only thing I remember about it was a specially designed airgun that broke Patton’s neck. So, I find that part of the story on Target Patton to be suspect.
Like I said, it’s really a lot more interesting in describing the conditions over there at the immediate end of the war than anything.
...Fromthe day Patton died in 1945 until thirty years later,nobody seriously discussed that a conspiracy lay behind hisdeath. This idea sounded intriguing to Frederick Nolan, a British author who had signed a contract to write eight full length thrillers in a year. In 1974, within six weeks, Nolan finished his first fiction, titled “The Oshawa Project,”published a year later in the U.S. under the title of “The Algonquin Project.” It was a quick job, very “seventies,”along the storyline of Frederick Forsyth’s “Day of the Jackal.”He did no research whatsoever, let alone interview Patton’s passengers General Gay and Woodring. According to his website, “what you write doesn’t matter, only how good it is.”And even though the book was obviously a fiction about a murder plot of a fictional general, the illustration on the cover of Patton and the many similarities in the text with Patton must have planted the seed about the possibility of a plot. And its commercial potential. With the success of the Hollywood movie “Patton” in the back of their minds, MGM bought the rights to turn Nolan’s thriller into a movie. To Nolan’s chagrin, the MGM scriptwriter took the Nazi gold story from Nolan’s other fiction, “The Mittenwald Syndicate,”and mixed it with the murder plot story. Released in December 1978under the title “Brass Target,”the movie was poor at best. Nolan himself speculates that was the reason why none of the stars joined the promotion tour. At the last minute he and Woodring were asked to do the nationwide promotion instead. Woodring went alongto tell the truth about Patton’sdeath: it was an accident pure and simple, said Woodring; “My purpose was to set the record straight. The movie certainly didn’t.”But Nolan’s stance changed from a fictional story into “maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t.”It was a cynical exploitation to sell the movie to the audience at the expense of historical accuracy. Here, by mixing the storylines of two fictional thrillers into amovie, is the birth of a conspiracy theory that lasts until today.Since then, manyothers have jumped on theconspiracybandwagon...
Hope you haven't stirred up the "fringe' but there is enough circumstances and happenstance to ponder. Given the above, I would not be surprised if the Russians did it, but given their style, a car wreck seems way to amateurish and leaves a lot to chance.
The author actually addressed that and car wrecks were one of Stalin's favorite ploys. He had half a dozen or so documented instances where car wrecks were used by the NKVD.
But according to the former OSS agent who confessed to the author, the staged wreck was just a pretense to get Patton stopped where he could be shot with a specially made spring piston airgun that launched a flat piece of metal and was only accurate at across the room distances. That broke his neck and then he was poisoned in the hospital two weeks later as he was about to be released.
I remain unconvinced about the actual alleged murder, though it is full of conflicting witnesses statements, disappearing witnesses, and most strangely if you know the Army’s obsession with triplicate forms for everything and considering that two MPs were on the scene within minutes if not seconds, NO OFFICIAL ACCIDENT REPORT. It appears one may have been done as it was referenced, but no one has ever found it. And it is pretty clear that Patton himself had been warned of murder plots.
But it is an eye opener as to what was actually going on over there and how compromised all the higher ups were. They almost all seem to have been Soviet agents themselves, or willing to ignore any provocation in the name of good relations.
But hey, you know, this goes against Ocham's Razor or whatnot. Maybe it fits in the Bell Curve or could be tested with the Scientific Method. What does Snopes say?
lol
Yes, by all means, we must consult Snopes on the matter, LOL.
Snopes. Commie evaluator of all things.
LMAO.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want.
I think it was this book that said that the reason he carried SAA instead of a 1911 was because of a negligent discharge he had in a Mexican saloon while carrying a 1911 in his belt.
He carried just about everything. But the SAA and his registered magnum were his signature guns.
He had two SAA's at one time but gifted one of the set.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
I think it was this book that said that the reason he carried SAA instead of a 1911 was because of a negligent discharge he had in a Mexican saloon while carrying a 1911 in his belt.
He carried just about everything. But the SAA and his registered magnum were his signature guns.
He had two SAA's at one time but gifted one of the set.
He kilt a Messican down there when he was with Pershing and was just a loot. Used an SAA IIRC.
Them dudes in The Wild Bunch put the 1911's to good use. They seemed to favor the 1897 Winchester riot guns also. That Heneral just liked a butcher knife though.