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140gr Berger Classic, CCI BR2, and 60gr H4831SC in Norma cases gets me 3,000 fps even in the 24" barrel of my Blaser K95.
I get 6-shot groups of less than a m.o.a up to 500 meters, the furthest I have tested them.
I get the same accuracy with Nosler's 140gr BT and Sp12 (Ramshot Magnum being its US version) at 3,040 fps. and better accuracy still with Berger 130gr Classic and H4831SC at 3,130 fps . My load with the 140gr Berger's is my favourite, though, as accuracy is plenty and its BC is the best of the three.
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Following the I use rl 26 with 145 eld-x. Following, any load data. My model 70 5 digit with factory 24 inch barrel 145gr ELD-X 60.5gr of RL 26 FED 210 R-P Cases avg velocity 3222 F.P.S I measure base to the ogive and its 2.750 Velocity measured with a RCBS chronograph, set up 14 feet away.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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I just got done with an article on new powders and bullets for the .270. Reloder 26 works very well with 145-150 grain bullets, but with lighter bulles Alliant lists higher velocities with RL-16 than either 23 or 26. Got superb accuracy and high velocities using RL-16 with 130-140 grain bullets. But there are several other good new powders as well.
Should also note, for traditionalists, that there have been four versions of H4831 since the mil-surp stuff ran out in the mid-1970's. If you're continuing to use H4831, it is NOT the same powder you started with way back when. Maybe it's my cheap chrono but it seems h4831 is getting slower over the yrs.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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I just got done with an article on new powders and bullets for the .270. Reloder 26 works very well with 145-150 grain bullets, but with lighter bulles Alliant lists higher velocities with RL-16 than either 23 or 26. Got superb accuracy and high velocities using RL-16 with 130-140 grain bullets. But there are several other good new powders as well.
Should also note, for traditionalists, that there have been four versions of H4831 since the mil-surp stuff ran out in the mid-1970's. If you're continuing to use H4831, it is NOT the same powder you started with way back when. Maybe it's my cheap chrono but it seems h4831 is getting slower over the yrs. It's not your chrono. My current lot of H4831 is much slower than the previous.
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Well I have been handloading the .270 wcf since the 70's - my favorite chambering.
Imo, you cannot beat some of the newer powders, RL 26 is fantastic with heavier jacketed bullets and lighter mono's.
It meters well, doesn't use up space and produces top speeds. I don't use the 4831's any longer.
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I just got done with an article on new powders and bullets for the .270. Reloder 26 works very well with 145-150 grain bullets, but with lighter bulles Alliant lists higher velocities with RL-16 than either 23 or 26. Got superb accuracy and high velocities using RL-16 with 130-140 grain bullets. But there are several other good new powders as well.
Should also note, for traditionalists, that there have been four versions of H4831 since the mil-surp stuff ran out in the mid-1970's. If you're continuing to use H4831, it is NOT the same powder you started with way back when. Look forward to seeing that article JB. Where will it be published? +1
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Sounds like there's a few I need to try with my 270. I prefer the 130g bullets over the 150's so RL16 and 23 could be possibilities. Is anyone using the Ramshot powders?
Ramshot Hunter is a great powder in mine. Great velocity and accuracy.
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Following the [quote=79S]I use rl 26 with 145 eld-x. Following, any load data. My model 70 5 digit with factory 24 inch barrel 145gr ELD-X 60.5gr of RL 26 FED 210 R-P Cases avg velocity 3222 F.P.S I measure base to the ogive and its 2.750 Velocity measured with a RCBS chronograph, set up 14 feet away. [/quote NIce load.
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Guess I'm the only one who reaches for a can of IMR 4064 or IMR 4895, and a 140 grain ballistic tip...
either one has been working just fine for accuracy for 6 or 7 decades.....
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Guess I'm the only one who reaches for a can of IMR 4064 or IMR 4895, and a 140 grain ballistic tip...
either one has been working just fine for accuracy for 6 or 7 decades..... I initially got into 270s back in the very early 1970's. 4064 was in common use and noted for its accuracy. It worked pretty well with all bullet weights, and I find myself surprised that it seems to be nearly forgotten for this use in todays world. I suspect many of us just had to try new and different powders, and/or got hooked on chasing the max velocity ghost. I went thru many pounds of of 785, 4831, and 4831SC. Also mixed in there was a gallon jug of MR 3100, and trials with many others. My constant over most of those decades has been the 130 gr Partition. While that is the bullet I usually hunt with, I have shot up a pile of most everything else available in the marketplace. Buried in the collection are a bunch of 145 gr AFrames, over MR3100, that are seriously accurate, and make the 270 perform on bigger game like a 300Mag. Ready for this fall is a good supply 130 gr Partitions and Etips over 4831SC. But right next to them are some 150 gr Partitions over RL26, you know, just in case. Rational, economical thinking has never been my strong point.
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I just got done with an article on new powders and bullets for the .270. Reloder 26 works very well with 145-150 grain bullets, but with lighter bulles Alliant lists higher velocities with RL-16 than either 23 or 26. Got superb accuracy and high velocities using RL-16 with 130-140 grain bullets. But there are several other good new powders as well.
Should also note, for traditionalists, that there have been four versions of H4831 since the mil-surp stuff ran out in the mid-1970's. If you're continuing to use H4831, it is NOT the same powder you started with way back when. Look forward to seeing that article JB. Where will it be published? +1 I wish I had found the RL-16 years ago. It's great with the 130TTSX!
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I loaded up some 150 Speer spitzers and Nosler partitions with R23 the last time I loaded for the 270 Win.
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Since I just now really started to wring out a .270, I don't have any old time favorites, not like I do the .280 ( 139sp/55gr/IMR 4831) or 30-06 ( 165 or 168 anything/58gr H or IMR 4350) plus, this current .270 is the first one I've owned that shoots the heavier jacketed bullets so accurate. So I am having a ball with these newer powders, I'm just now learning their eccentricities. I would say that 9 out of 10 .270 users I have grilled in the past 30yrs out here in Utah like the 150gr bullet. The 130 users were handloaders who used partition or Barnes. I know that the majority of the elk killed during our rifle season are cows, spikes, younger rag horns. Very few monster bulls. If you see any magnums they are going to be 7mm Rem Mag, followed by the 300WM. I've only met a handful that use 338s and up. Since my 270 shoots the 160 partition ( 60gr R26) so well, I decided to use it on my cow elk hunt. If not now, when? right?
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I am planning on tying the 110 TTSX & Accubond in my 270's. After playing with various loads with my .257 Wby shooting 100 TTSX bullets and my 7mm SAUM shooting 120 TTSX & 120 BT's the past 2 yrs.....There is something to be said for these lighter wt for caliber bullets when using a TTSX or GMX and at speeds over 3375 fps. It is basically a "center of mass" hold out to 400 yds and the TTSX & GMX bullets have been very effective at those speeds from 40 yds to 225 yds so far
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Guess I'm the only one who reaches for a can of IMR 4064 or IMR 4895, and a 140 grain ballistic tip...
either one has been working just fine for accuracy for 6 or 7 decades..... I initially got into 270s back in the very early 1970's. 4064 was in common use and noted for its accuracy. It worked pretty well with all bullet weights, and I find myself surprised that it seems to be nearly forgotten for this use in todays world. I suspect many of us just had to try new and different powders, and/or got hooked on chasing the max velocity ghost. I went thru many pounds of of 785, 4831, and 4831SC. Also mixed in there was a gallon jug of MR 3100, and trials with many others. My constant over most of those decades has been the 130 gr Partition. While that is the bullet I usually hunt with, I have shot up a pile of most everything else available in the marketplace. Buried in the collection are a bunch of 145 gr AFrames, over MR3100, that are seriously accurate, and make the 270 perform on bigger game like a 300Mag. Ready for this fall is a good supply 130 gr Partitions and Etips over 4831SC. But right next to them are some 150 gr Partitions over RL26, you know, just in case. Rational, economical thinking has never been my strong point. Nailed it brother. What the hell is wrong with us? One shot per deer per tag. Why do I have 3 different bullets over various powders loaded in quantity? Because I can I guess. Rational economical thinking does not exist here.
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I am planning on tying the 110 TTSX & Accubond in my 270's. After playing with various loads with my .257 Wby shooting 100 TTSX bullets and my 7mm SAUM shooting 120 TTSX & 120 BT's the past 2 yrs.....There is something to be said for these lighter wt for caliber bullets when using a TTSX or GMX and at speeds over 3375 fps. It is basically a "center of mass" hold out to 400 yds and the TTSX & GMX bullets have been very effective at those speeds from 40 yds to 225 yds so far The Tikka really likes the 110 over 4064. Pleasant to be around and accurate too. My daughter will carry the TTSX 110 in her 270 Win for Muledeer this fall.
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I’ve always used IMR 4350, but you all are making me want to try RL-26.
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I was very impressed with the 110TTSX and Hunter, and R23 with the 150 NBT.
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Thanks for the "heads up" on Hunter. So far it is the most accurate and obtains the highest velocity in my 7mm SAUM with the 120 gr bullets
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