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When people buy these huge snakes their the size of a pencil and grow to where they can eat you. Safe handling requires 1 adult per 4’. When they get huge people let them free.
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When people buy these huge snakes their the size of a pencil and grow to where they can eat you. Safe handling requires 1 adult per 4’. When they get huge people let them free. OK, I'll scratch my last 25 years of experience and run with that.....
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Why not do a controlled burn series in the Everglades? Four legged critters and birds will move out pretty quickly. Swamp will regenerate. Are we going to lose some animals, yes. If not very dramatic action, python predators will wipe them all out. Serially kill all those big devils and regain control. I have thought about that myself but these things would probably slither off and hide where it was safe. I believe the indians as a matter of routine did controlled burns in the everglades at one time. JeffA would know the answer to this .
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Why not do a controlled burn series in the Everglades? Four legged critters and birds will move out pretty quickly. Swamp will regenerate. Are we going to lose some animals, yes. If not very dramatic action, python predators will wipe them all out. Serially kill all those big devils and regain control. I have thought about that myself but these things would probably slither off and hide where it was safe. I believe the indians as a matter of routine did controlled burns in the everglades at one time. JeffA would know the answer to this . The Glades burn on a pretty regular basis, natural and man made control burns. I've never heard any mention as to the burns having effect on the reptiles or any other species that call the Glades home. Ya gotta remember, the Glades is mostly water...
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Why not do a controlled burn series in the Everglades? Four legged critters and birds will move out pretty quickly. Swamp will regenerate. Are we going to lose some animals, yes. If not very dramatic action, python predators will wipe them all out. Serially kill all those big devils and regain control. I have thought about that myself but these things would probably slither off and hide where it was safe. I believe the indians as a matter of routine did controlled burns in the everglades at one time. JeffA would know the answer to this . The Glades burn on a pretty regular basis, natural and man made control burns. I've never heard any mention as to the burns having effect on the reptiles or any other species that call the Glades home. Ya gotta remember, the Glades is mostly water... Going to be a battle removing them if it can even be done at all.
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The snakes will not be eradicated, they're here to stay. I have my doubts you could come to the Glades for a week or two or even longer and even get a chance to see one in the wild. Their numbers are up there and growing but the Glades cover a huge area like 1.5 million acres. A lot of media hype is involved whenever a single snake is captured or killed. I've wandered all over these swamps at times in waist deep water for miles and never seen a invasive snake by chance. Seen plenty of native snakes, which can be of a lot more concern due to being venomous. The invasive species we have messed with were first brought to our attention via a phone call and report of where one had been spotted so it could be captured. Lot's of things out there to photograph other than snakes.... These little guys are sorta invasive
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Jeff, you got a lot of nerve wading through those swamps! I'd be scared of running into a pack of moccasins!
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You boys can have all the swampland you want. I'll take mountains and streams. But it is interesting that America has such diverse geography and lifestyles and yet we all unite as Americans.
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i always ask the chicks if they want to see my copperhead. Yep.your midget copperhead. Quit sending pics. Fingerling?
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You eat those things Jeff? I think you meant venomous, rather than poisionous. Word Nazi at work......
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Jeff, you got a lot of nerve wading through those swamps! I'd be scared of running into a pack of moccasins! And that's the #1 little bi tch we run into. That is what the sticks are for, to flip them outta the way. You gotta stay alert, the problem is that the canopy is so dense that all the trees grow fast, skinny and tall in attempt to reach the sun. So there is a lot of 30 to 40ft thin dead fall that's underwater. You step on the fat end and the tiny little top pop's outta the water 30 ft away and looks just like a snakes head...Keeps ya on your toes..... You eat those things Jeff? I think you meant venomous, rather than poisionous. Word Nazi at work...... Huh? Where? LOL I went brain dead and was hacking the spelling so took an alternative route...fixed it..thanks...
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And to think I was startled by a yard long bull snake as I reached to turn on a lawn faucet yesterday. Can't imagine rounding the corner and running into one out weighing me.
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They can keep their snakes and swamps....
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I keep seeing shows where they catch the bastards. Why don't they just kill them? for years, the state decided to protect the reptiles and 'study' them. You could go out into the 'glades an catch them, but they had to be turned over to the State. Recently it's more of a 'kill on sight' thing, but years too late.
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50 eggs in 1 snake. Take 1000 snakes with 50 each and in just 1 hatch, you have a whole crapload of snakes. There's no way they'll ever clean them out.
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The Glades burn on a pretty regular basis, natural and man made control burns. I've never heard any mention as to the burns having effect on the reptiles or any other species that call the Glades home.
Ya gotta remember, the Glades is mostly water...
Yes. There were 12 fires just last week all going at the same time.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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i always ask the chicks if they want to see my copperhead. Because they'll need a series of med's after exposure?
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Outlaw all pythons including pets. Then put a bounty on them. Kill the ones caught. +1
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I keep seeing shows where they catch the bastards. Why don't they just kill them? for years, the state decided to protect the reptiles and 'study' them. You could go out into the 'glades an catch them, but they had to be turned over to the State. Recently it's more of a 'kill on sight' thing, but years too late. Unfortunately Georgia isn't learning by Florida's example. They have recently discovered an area populated by tegu lizards and the Georgia DNR's reaction is to study it. No telling what is out there right now and there are few things being done to keep Georgia from following the path taken by Florida. This snake track was found on the road to my shop. It is between 6 and 7 inches wide. We have a university in town that has around 20,000 students and a pet store that sells several different types of pythons and lizards. No telling what has already been released in the area.
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No disrespect, chlinstructor. Good story. But, I always have to laugh when people call Ron Bergeron an "Everglades Conservationist". He's the biggest developer in south FL and has been for years. While most developers are often dripping with law-breaking activity, Bergeron is probably among the most ethical of the bunch. Still, calling him an "Everglades Conservationist" kinda makes me chuckle. His Payloaders and Caterpillars have mowed down a chitload of hammock, mangrove estuary, Florida pine, and oak. And, displaced a 100 mi long trainload of indigenous species.
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