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Yeah though I walk though the valley of death, I fear no evil, for my 30-378 is with me.
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Beaver10,you forgot about the .30/378 Wby.
If I were in the market for a big .30 the .30/378 Wby would be a contender. Elk, I owned one for several years...Made my farthest one shot on a nice bull with it. 842 yards with a Barnes 180g TSX. I actually sold it after putting almost 460 rounds through it - thinking barrel life might be getting close to expiration. 😎 Barrel life or shoulder life?!
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I likely handicapped this thread by establishing a 300-750 yard average for shots taken on furs with bigger .30’s that don’t shoot long sleek bullets...
I’am coming to understand how guys who love a 270, 30/06 and 308 chambering probably don’t suffer much in lack of lethality, maybe only losing some distance and ft pounds at impact depending on what they choose to deploy for an optic - dial versus set & forget for accurately placing shots into vitals.
With so many choices. A new or old hunter/shooter has options that probably outweigh any real benefit of slinging a 300 mag of some sort...The world of projectiles and rifle chambering are a guys oyster, and that can’t be a bad thing...
Maybe, I’m learning that a nostalgia about my 300 Roy and Ultramag is much the same as others feel about their 270, 06, and 308’s...Even though the 270 Win isn’t a .30, it’s defended as good killing medicine even if wearing a dress and high heels is considered the proper fashion wear when hunting with one...😬😎
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Beaver10,you forgot about the .30/378 Wby.
If I were in the market for a big .30 the .30/378 Wby would be a contender. Elk, I owned one for several years...Made my farthest one shot on a nice bull with it. 842 yards with a Barnes 180g TSX. I actually sold it after putting almost 460 rounds through it - thinking barrel life might be getting close to expiration. 😎 Barrel life or shoulder life?! Barrel 💋 You my friend could shoot a 30/378 off your face and not find it unpleasant in the least...I wonder why you haven’t owned one yet? It could be in your near future. Bunnies beware! 😎
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Shot plenty of targets and game up to and including elk. I used 200 grain AB's, Partitions and TBBC's , all resulting in nice dead bulls with one shot. Closest was 48 yards, longest was 250 yards. Not a single case of bad or marginal performance ever.
For deer I used 180 grain AB's and thile they performed well, their terminal performance suggestedtgat I might be better suited with a faster opening BT. We have large bodies whitetails here but still, I didnt need anything more than a BT in my 300's.
My most recent experiment involved trying a 190 grain VLD in my Colt Sauer 300 Win Mag. It really liked that bullet on paper and I wanted to see what it would do on whitetails. Most of my shots with this rifle were in the 300 yard range on our large agricultural fields. Last year I had a "contract killing" for a large doe at the end of the season. A lady in our church loves deer meat and her husband was recently deceased. I was glad to help out. 390 yards away is a big ol nanny goat doe, about 180#. A head on shot put the bullet right where you tie your bow tie. She runs maybe 50 yards and falls over. Make my way to her and she appears gut shot....guts blown completely out. What? I found that the shot was placed very good, with the bullet riding just under the backbone and lodging in her right ham. It was the hydrostatic shock that "gutted" her. The shock of the VLD impact, and traveling through her, had unzipped her belly along the way. Crazy what bullets will do sometime. GDoggy. You’re a hanger on’re with your nice .30’s. They can be difficult to put away for good for some of us. You also have a 270 gay you fondle at times, too...😎
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GDoggy. You’re a hanger on’re with your nice .30’s. They can be difficult to put away for good for some of us. You also have a 270 gay you fondle at times, too...😎 [/quote]
Got three 270’s when I want to reconnect with my feminine side. You know how it is....😛 Colt Sauer, 1957 model 70 and and 1967 Browning Safari.
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I'm in the medium to medium large 7mm camp which is as big as I'll ever get....
I'm into shootable rifles with manageable recoil and medium to light weights. They kill stuff up to elk plenty far out there no issues...
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180 Eldm and a 7-08 bitch. lol
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Just kidding I’ve been running the 210 lrab and 210 Berger’s.
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I have never lacked anything using a 200 grain Partition from my 300 magnum. In fact, not from any of them 2 of which were 308 Norma's.
The idea that because a few companies bring out bullets with higher BCs that somehow the old tried and true "gold-standards" that worked so wall for 60-70 years or more, suddenly stop working is just idiotic.
But never fear, there are a LOT of idiots to carry that flag forward.
You will do just fire Beaver10. Just like about a million other hunters who used the flat base Noslers and other older bullets........ that never gave any problems.
I'll be running a 200gr partition in my new 308 Norma. I know it will be an elk stomping sob. My 30-06 does just fine with that bullet at modest velocities.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Masochists. Beaver10,you forgot about the .30/378 Wby.
If I were in the market for a big .30 the .30/378 Wby would be a contender. Elk, I owned one for several years...Made my farthest one shot on a nice bull with it. 842 yards with a Barnes 180g TSX. I actually sold it after putting almost 460 rounds through it - thinking barrel life might be getting close to expiration. 😎 Barrel life or shoulder life?!
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I'm in the medium to medium large 7mm camp which is as big as I'll ever get....
I'm into shootable rifles with manageable recoil and medium to light weights. They kill stuff up to elk plenty far out there no issues...
I’m with the Beekeeping flatlander on this one... laffin. If I hunted the hard country of the Adirondacks, for big meat does... I’d probably reconsider. I have seen the 208 Amax hammer some stuff via .300 RUM... it’s beber not impressive. I’m just not into 100 grain powder charges and heinous recoil.
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Beaver10,you forgot about the .30/378 Wby.
If I were in the market for a big .30 the .30/378 Wby would be a contender. Elk, I owned one for several years...Made my farthest one shot on a nice bull with it. 842 yards with a Barnes 180g TSX. I actually sold it after putting almost 460 rounds through it - thinking barrel life might be getting close to expiration. 😎 I sold mine after putting 680 rounds through it, that was a long day.
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The big Lazzeroni .30 cal is the .7.82 Warbird.
Just a quick search of the ballistics,the Warbird is just over 100 fps faster the the Wby. The Warbird sends a 180 grain bullet at 3550 fps and the Wby is 3420 fps.
I had a warbird for awhile. I never got those speeds.. in fact it ran a bit behind my 30-378. I had a 30/378 load for the old 180 XLC that was north of 3500,it was a Barnes published Load at the time.
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GW and Dog have a point with the 7 series chambering...7mag, 7/08, 7WSM and 28Nosler..Powder consumption is lower, maybe not so much lower in a 28N but still Lower than big 30’s.
Projectiles are in abundance with better BC that dump their payload into game like Thor’s Hammer...With the moderate recoil of a medium 7/08. This is just a fun rig to shoot that pays out with quick deaths and for me wouldn’t need a brake to enjoy it.
Absolutely, nothing not to like about these offerings...Unless you’re already tooled up with 30’s.
Mitigating recoil today is easier and way better than years past with good brakes available like APA Gen 2 Little Bastard or Fat Bastard. Both refining recoil down to a level of a 243 Win even on a light rig of under 9 pounds. The big 30’s no longer have to punish if your willing to remember ear buds before touching off...I am considered legally deaf in my left ear from years of shooting. Deaf is real and silent...
If you refuse to run a loudner for personal reasons or your hunting pard who’s on a spotter near you calling out your corrections and watching for contrails will thank you for the lack of percussion and debris dusting he would have received for his efforts if a brake was attached.
Someday I may switch over to running only 7 mediums and 7mags. All I’d need is the 7mag to accomplish the change over, and it will be a Tikka T3 or T3x Lite...😎
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The big Lazzeroni .30 cal is the .7.82 Warbird.
Just a quick search of the ballistics,the Warbird is just over 100 fps faster the the Wby. The Warbird sends a 180 grain bullet at 3550 fps and the Wby is 3420 fps.
I had a warbird for awhile. I never got those speeds.. in fact it ran a bit behind my 30-378. I had a 30/378 load for the old 180 XLC that was north of 3500,it was a Barnes published Load at the time. My Warbird pushed 180gr Accubonds to 3500 fps using RL25. Any faster resulted in ejector marks and eventually loose primer pockets. The 27” Lilja barrel died with a bit over 1k rounds. The poor quality of the brass available for the Warbird prompted me to go 30-338 Lapua Imp on the rebuild.
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The big Lazzeroni .30 cal is the .7.82 Warbird.
Just a quick search of the ballistics,the Warbird is just over 100 fps faster the the Wby. The Warbird sends a 180 grain bullet at 3550 fps and the Wby is 3420 fps.
I had a warbird for awhile. I never got those speeds.. in fact it ran a bit behind my 30-378. I had a 30/378 load for the old 180 XLC that was north of 3500,it was a Barnes published Load at the time. I got the numbers from the Lazzeroni and Weatherby websites.
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Beaver10,you forgot about the .30/378 Wby.
If I were in the market for a big .30 the .30/378 Wby would be a contender. Elk, I owned one for several years...Made my farthest one shot on a nice bull with it. 842 yards with a Barnes 180g TSX. I actually sold it after putting almost 460 rounds through it - thinking barrel life might be getting close to expiration. 😎 Barrel life or shoulder life?! Barrel 💋 You my friend could shoot a 30/378 off your face and not find it unpleasant in the least...I wonder why you haven’t owned one yet? It could be in your near future. Bunnies beware! 😎 A .30/378 Wby hmmmm.....
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You all have fun with those fire breathing magnums. I've had magnumitus, and enjoyed it, but those days are over for me.
I'll continue killing elk with my 6.5X284, plus the occasional one with my .300 H&H.
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You all have fun with those fire breathing magnums. I've had magnumitus, and enjoyed it, but those days are over for me.
I'll continue killing elk with my 6.5X284, plus the occasional one with my .300 H&H. Uh, last time I checked, the 300 H&H is a magnum
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