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Thanks for the comeback Paul....I wouldn't be bringing anything that would harm any of the steel....

either 223 or 22.250 with varmint bullets that splatter on impact...

I didn't think it would be a big deal.. I've tried to fit into the 'non rest' rules..
but I have range of motion issues with my neck ( birth defect) that doesn't allow me to be able to shoot from a prone position, and off hand just isn't that good except to come in last place...which I really don't mind doing..

I just never liked competing with friends...character defect...because I can get overly competitive...

I just enjoy the shooting, and seeing how I do among my peers...nothing more...

hopefully will understand that idiosyncrasy of mine...


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Very good, John. This is one fine bunch of folks and a good time will be had by all.


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Originally Posted by CCCC
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Hey I did alright when I shot on my first trip there. ;-)

Yes, Ed, you did quite well. Are you going to come back for a repeat performance sometime? That would be really good.


I don't see a return happening given that Tonto is gone and we spend the three months of summer at our place in north Idaho. Frankly, I have lost all desire to shoot on the Campfire trips as the fun has been lost, for me at least. I won two of three the year I attended Tonto with simple stuff that I hunted with. When wind meters showed, well that's not for me. I will miss Ken's food though.


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That's a bit interesting there Ed. All that most of us have ever shot at the Campfire events over the years are hunting/varmint rifles and carry handguns - that is totally true for me and some others I know. My eyesight is not so hot, but I don't remember having seen a wind meter at one of our friendly comp shoots - maybe one showed up and I was too dumb/inexperienced to know what it was. Anyway - our traditions have been to keep it to simple stuff and in recent times the winning has been spread around among some pretty good shooters who are also very solid peeps. If you were to come shoot with them again, you might get back some of your lost fun - or maybe a lot of it. Who knows - we may have another wintertime event, of some sort, in some sunny spot. I like seeing these folks twice a year, and it would be good if you were here as well.


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Originally Posted by CCCC


(competing shooters may not use the same firearm as another shooter in same event)


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1:00 PM - Steel Shoot Distance: steels at approximately 100, 200, and 300 yards
Firearm: any sporting firearm with any sights (not dedicated target/competition type) Maximum case capacity is 30-06 size or smaller with max velocity of 3300 fps, to save the steel – honor system.
Position: any free position with various pods/shooting sticks OK, or at bench with firearm not touching anything except shooter’s body
Time once positioned: 6 minutes
Goal: 6 shots with at least one at each distance; must call each shot; points according to distance
Shooting order determined by draw.




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I noticed a couple of things that need to be changed in this format. In the steel shoot the only requirement is that you have to take at least ONE shot at one of the high value (white) targets. You can shoot all 6 rounds at the white targets if you feel frisky.

As far as sharing guns. The only shoots where this is an issue is the Prairie Dog shoot where you can get the wind from the other shooter as well as the vertical.

I don't see any issues with sharing a rifle for the 22 or steel shoot especially. The dots on the the shoots other than Prairie Dog are big enough that you should be able to hit them. The group size should determine the winners.

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Originally Posted by EdM
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Hey I did alright when I shot on my first trip there. ;-)

Yes, Ed, you did quite well. Are you going to come back for a repeat performance sometime? That would be really good.


I don't see a return happening given that Tonto is gone and we spend the three months of summer at our place in north Idaho. Frankly, I have lost all desire to shoot on the Campfire trips as the fun has been lost, for me at least. I won two of three the year I attended Tonto with simple stuff that I hunted with. When wind meters showed, well that's not for me. I will miss Ken's food though.


Joe did bring a wind flag one year to use with the 22s. He didn't win and anyone could have looked at it. It was tough keeping all those bullets on the dots at that range. I usually hang a few ribbons on the branches and stuff for the steel shoot since we shoot out to 300 yards.

I haven't shot in the steel shoot since the first year we did it- the year Mic McPherson showed up. I will this year.


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That's our guy Dennis - agree on description/rules to be posted and then think of things to change up. Then again, he's a good thinker and a good sport - I'm just fine with what all he said above.

D, In that you are going through the efforts to get, make, bring and set up the steels for that shoot, I will provide the targets for the:following:
Rimfire 30 yard shoot (2 inch spot)
100 yard small group shoot (2 inch spot)
125 yard .22 rimfire small group shoot (4 inch spot)
200 yard Prairie Dog shoot (1/2 inch spot) The PD shoot was started at Armijo, so we will still have three dogs per target again - can't miss the fun when someone shoots another person's dog. If it seems better to go to single dog targets after the relocation, so be it.

All the best, to all.

P.S. If someone (again) can bring one or two pop-up shade covers, it will help make the shoots much more enjoyable, even for the spectators.. I think that I have one from last year. Thanks if you can help with this.
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Sounds good.

I'm headed to Alberta in the morning so I won't be able to do anything else to get ready for this until the 31st when I am back.

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It is about 99% sure I will make It. The plan is to fly to San Diego and pick up my son then we would drive there. He had surgery and may not be recovered so I would have to fly to AZ and numb a ride. Either way I would be flying and thus gun poor. I am really looking forward to seeing everyone again.


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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
Sounds good.

I'm headed to Alberta in the morning so I won't be able to do anything else to get ready for this until the 31st when I am back.

Who is Alberta?


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It is about 99% sure I will make It.- - - - - I am really looking forward to seeing everyone again.

Now, this is some very good news.It will be a treat to have you here again, Scott.


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Thanks Paul. It will be good to see you again.


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Hope you folks have a great time! Wish I could make it, but there is too much going on here at the plant for me to get off.


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Patrick, you will be much missed and I'm sorry you can't make it. You and Leonard were at Armijo Springs for our very first gathering there, and for most of those since, so I was figuring you would make the last one as well. Let's figure that you will be part of the next one at the new summer venue.


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Probably time to get a count. Dennis is seeing Alberta and Kent is busy working - so I will request that we chime in here and soon if coming - and how many in your group? Maybe arrival plan as well. Thanks.


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Add one to your count. I plan to arrive Friday evening, God willing and the creek don't rise. I'm looking forward to meeting you all.

I was in El Paso and prepared to attend the gathering in Arizona six months ago. I hope nothing stands in the way this time!


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Ed & Kat (Kathryn) will be there Thursday afternoon/evening.

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i am planning to come, probably will arrive Thursday. Just me, this year.


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Judy and I plan on being there Friday afternoon.

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