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Why do people get so worked up about this stuff? You get to believe whatever you want. This is 'Merica! Land of the Free, soon to be Land of the Free Stuff.


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Originally Posted by 19352012
Why do people get so worked up about this stuff? You get to believe whatever you want. This is 'Merica! Land of the Free, soon to be Land of the Free Stuff.



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Originally Posted by 19352012
Why do people get so worked up about this stuff? You get to believe whatever you want. This is 'Merica! Land of the Free, soon to be Land of the Free Stuff.


Believing that something is true doesn't make it true. The World doesn't conform to our beliefs.

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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
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The church of Darwin is still punishing the disbelievers.



How so?



Go back and listen to the video again. It's in there.


I don't have time to watch videos, sorry.

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Soon to be land of the dead.

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Soon to be land of the dead.


Not sure what you mean.

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I find evolution more plausible than that old wives tale about Adam and Eve.


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So, when is another species coming along.


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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
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TRH, do you even realize you are no longer arguing for darwinian evolution but intelligent design and even intelligent CONTROL?

You are just under the mistaken belief that evolutionists propose that evolution is a random process. They do not propose that.

Here's Richard Dawkins propounding this to someone else who made the same mistake.




No, no, no, the debate is about the genetic variability presented to the environment. It IS believed to be random. That is where the discussion about mathematic impossibility takes place NOT in the selection process. Come on. Of course the theory is that the environment makes the selections. But if there isn't sufficient genetic variability over enough time, IT CAN'T.

But there evidently is enough, since the evidence for it having occurred is overwhelming. Nothing is more supported by the evidence than that speciation occurred and that all species are, to one extent or another, related to one another.

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Originally Posted by 19352012
Why do people get so worked up about this stuff? You get to believe whatever you want. This is 'Merica! Land of the Free, soon to be Land of the Free Stuff.

I'm not particularly worked up.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
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Evolution is a fact. Theory relates to the means and mechanisms by which it happens.


Thank you for proving my point.

You state that it is a fact even though you can’t find evidence that it happened. You can’t find evidence that it is happening. And you can’t satisfactorily explain how it could have happened. Yet, it is fact. Lol


You really need to get out more. Ignorance is something you should not brag about in public.

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Evolution is theory simply because all other possible theories cannot be eliminated. No matter how improbable.

Personally I find no conflict between evolution and creationism. However I'm neither a fundamentalist nor a literalist if those terms are not synonymous.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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TRH, do you even realize you are no longer arguing for darwinian evolution but intelligent design and even intelligent CONTROL?

You are just under the mistaken belief that evolutionists propose that evolution is a random process. They do not propose that.

Here's Richard Dawkins propounding this to someone else who made the same mistake.




No, no, no, the debate is about the genetic variability presented to the environment. It IS believed to be random. That is where the discussion about mathematic impossibility takes place NOT in the selection process. Come on. Of course the theory is that the environment makes the selections. But if there isn't sufficient genetic variability over enough time, IT CAN'T.

But there evidently is enough, since the evidence for it having occurred is overwhelming. Nothing is more supported by the evidence than that speciation occurred and that all species are, to one extent or another, related to one another.



Sorry ol' bean, but this is just more arguing backward.


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Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
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Evolution is a fact. Theory relates to the means and mechanisms by which it happens.


Thank you for proving my point.

You state that it is a fact even though you can’t find evidence that it happened. You can’t find evidence that it is happening. And you can’t satisfactorily explain how it could have happened. Yet, it is fact. Lol


You really need to get out more. Ignorance is something you should not brag about in public.




Bwahahaahahahaha!!! Nothing like finding the village nitwit has come to joust.


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Originally Posted by oldtrapper

Sorry ol' bean, but this is just more arguing backward.

Actually, it's the reverse of what you say. You folks are trying to suggest that purely speculative evidence that something cannot happen is proof that something that quite evidently did happen (supported massively by the available evidence), didn't.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Sorry ol' bean, but this is just more arguing backward.

Actually, it's the reverse of what you say. You folks are trying to suggest that purely speculative evidence that something cannot happen is proof that something that quite evidently did happen (supported massively by the available evidence), didn't.



Your argument is like this. I see a rock. It was caused by the big bang. The evidence for the big bang is that the rock is here. See?


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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
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Sorry ol' bean, but this is just more arguing backward.

Actually, it's the reverse of what you say. You folks are trying to suggest that purely speculative evidence that something cannot happen is proof that something that quite evidently did happen (supported massively by the available evidence), didn't.



Your argument is like this. I see a rock. It was caused by the big bang. The evidence for the big bang is that the rock is here. See?

The Big Bang Theory is a fairly well supported scientific theory, while speciation by natural selection is massively supported by every observation made in biology, and in related fields, such as geology. The two are not even close.

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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
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Originally Posted by oldtrapper

Sorry ol' bean, but this is just more arguing backward.

Actually, it's the reverse of what you say. You folks are trying to suggest that purely speculative evidence that something cannot happen is proof that something that quite evidently did happen (supported massively by the available evidence), didn't.



Your argument is like this. I see a rock. It was caused by the big bang. The evidence for the big bang is that the rock is here. See?


It’s more like, I see a car, a train, a motorcycle, and a wagon. These are all vehicles of roughly the same form with wheels. Since I know that that there is no one who could have made these items, they must have appeared by natural means. Since they appeared by natural means, and they are so similar, they must have evolved from a common ancestor. And the proof that they did and that such a process occurred, is that they are here.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Sorry ol' bean, but this is just more arguing backward.

Actually, it's the reverse of what you say. You folks are trying to suggest that purely speculative evidence that something cannot happen is proof that something that quite evidently did happen (supported massively by the available evidence), didn't.



Your argument is like this. I see a rock. It was caused by the big bang. The evidence for the big bang is that the rock is here. See?

The Big Bang Theory is a fairly well supported scientific theory, while speciation by natural selection is massively supported by every observation made in biology, and in related fields, such as geology. The two are not even close.



This was a logic lesson, not a theory comparison. Try again. To deal with the argument presented in the video you will need to show the error in their math or detailed explanations why it does not apply to genetic variability. Go for it, but stay on track.


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Originally Posted by DBT
Evolution is a fact. Theory relates to the means and mechanisms by which it happens.

A "fact" like any other lying lieberal "fact". A fact that is a lie.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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