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Again, evolution is not linear. Mudhen gave a good explanation.


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Wolves and dogs can interbreed and produce offspring.

Humans cant with apes or any other creature in the past.

It is written, humans alone are wonderfully made.

Any previous being with the strength of apes and IQ of humans would have quickly filled enough space on earth they would still be here.

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Another good one. You folks should watch the whole series.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Evolution denies God. The theory is for people looking for a way.

Evolution says nothing about God whatsoever. No more than the theory of gravitation says anything about God.


Yes it does. The Scripture says that everything reproduces "after its kind" and by all accounts of observation made by anyone who has ever lived this is obviously true. You raised the example of dogs coming from wolves. This is an example of selective breeding done by man under controlled circumstances over a relatively short period of time. This is how we get a Pomeranian which could never survive in the wild but it is still a canine creature which has the same basic traits of a wolf except for size, temperment, etc. The point being is that you can selectively breed dogs from now till hell freezes over and you ain't gonna get a cat. Things reproduce after their kind period.

The theory of evolution purports that over "millions of years" fish can evolve into amphibians which can evolve into aquatic mammals which evolve into land mammals. No one has ever observed this happen. Ever. They will tell you all of this stuff took place a long time ago and took millions of years but they can't prove it. No one has observed it just like no one observed God create Adam out of the dust. You take both by faith and go one way or the other.


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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Wolves and dogs can interbreed and produce offspring.

Humans cant with apes or any other creature in the past.

It is written, humans alone are wonderfully made.

Any previous being with the strength of apes and IQ of humans would have quickly filled enough space on earth they would still be here.

They didn't have our IQ. IQ proved superior to physical power when it comes to which species will end up controlling the same niche.

Dogs haven't been long enough isolated from wolves to lose the ability to produce fertile offspring. Horses and donkeys have, though.

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PS opposing Creationism isn't the same as opposing divine creation. The latter doesn't contradict science. The former does.

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Okay, we came from monkeys. Cool. But why do we still have monkeys and no middle man?

The middle men moved to Chicago and Detroit.


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Okay, we came from monkeys. Cool. But why do we still have monkeys and no middle man?


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In an alternate universe, monkeys descended from us. It’s happening in Chicago also.


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Originally Posted by RJY66
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Evolution denies God. The theory is for people looking for a way.

Evolution says nothing about God whatsoever. No more than the theory of gravitation says anything about God.


Yes it does. The Scripture says that everything reproduces "after its kind" and by all accounts of observation made by anyone who has ever lived this is obviously true. You raised the example of dogs coming from wolves. This is an example of selective breeding done by man under controlled circumstances over a relatively short period of time. This is how we get a Pomeranian which could never survive in the wild but it is still a canine creature which has the same basic traits of a wolf except for size, temperment, etc. The point being is that you can selectively breed dogs from now till hell freezes over and you ain't gonna get a cat. Things reproduce after their kind period.

The theory of evolution purports that over "millions of years" fish can evolve into amphibians which can evolve into aquatic mammals which evolve into land mammals. No one has ever observed this happen. Ever. They will tell you all of this stuff took place a long time ago and took millions of years but they can't prove it. No one has observed it just like no one observed God create Adam out of the dust. You take both by faith and go one way or the other.

Reproduction according to kind doesn't contradict evolution, since evolution doesn't propose that a member of species X gives birth to a member of species Y. Rather, it is only from a distance of many thousands, or hundreds of thousands, of generations can you observe that specimen A is sufficiently distinct from specimen Z (born many thousands of generations earlier) to justify classifying it as a member of a distinct subspecies, or a distinct (though closely related) species.

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Originally Posted by add
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Okay, we came from monkeys. Cool. But why do we still have monkeys and no middle man?


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Originally Posted by add
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Okay, we came from monkeys. Cool. But why do we still have monkeys and no middle man?


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Okay, we came from monkeys. Cool. But why do we still have monkeys and no middle man?

They tasted like chicken.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Okay, we came from monkeys. Cool. But why do we still have monkeys and no middle man?


American's came from England, so why do we still have the English?


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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For the rational free thinkers, this science was settled in the 1880's. Evangelical Christians won't accept ANYTHING anyone says on the issue in support of evolution...so what's the point of any so-called "discussion"?

Theologians (who are NOT experts on paleontology, anatomy, kinesiology, primatology, embryology, neurobiology, etc) snub anything and everything that doesn't conform to their pre-conceived ideals. These people are not interested in the truth at all. They are only interested in things that support their pre-determined ideology.

Discussing evolution with an evangelical is wasted time you will never get back!

I WAS an evangelical who spent a lot of time studying Christian Apologetics. My copies of Evidence That Demands a Verdict are autographed by Josh McDowell. And although I no longer agree with his conclusions, I still have a great deal of respect for the man himself.

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Originally Posted by GunGeek
For the rational free thinkers, this science was settled in the 1880's. Evangelical Christians won't accept ANYTHING anyone says on the issue in support of evolution...so what's the point of any so-called "discussion"?

Theologians (who are NOT experts on paleontology, anatomy, kinesiology, primatology, embryology, neurobiology, etc) snub anything and everything that doesn't conform to their pre-conceived ideals. These people are not interested in the truth at all. They are only interested in things that support their pre-determined ideology.

Discussing evolution with an evangelical is wasted time you will never get back!

I WAS an evangelical who spent a lot of time studying Christian Apologetics. My copies of Evidence That Demands a Verdict are autographed by Josh McDowell. And although I no longer agree with his conclusions, I still have a great deal of respect for the man himself.


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Evolution is the way God did it.


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Originally Posted by meddybemps
Evolution is the way God did it.


According to Genesis, God assigned the job to nature. It says that God commanded that the waters and the earth bring forth all the living creatures, and they did. That's what science says happened, too.

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