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I am minding my own business today doing garage sales when I come across an old timey gray carton of Winchester Power-Points (hollow-points) - they had no price tag on them. I was hoping they would be affordable as these cardboard boxed Winchester 22 Long Rifle Power-Points are some of the most accurate and lethal 22 bullets I have ever used!
Anyway I grab them up and hunt down the garage saler and he relays how he wants $20.00 for the 500 round carton (10 boxes of 50 rounds).
I could not get the $20.00 out of my wallet fast enough.
As I am digesting this great buy (these bullets sell now for $50.00 or just under that these days) I ask the fellow if he has anymore of these bullets and he said he thought he did but wouldn't be able to look for them until tonight. I will be first in line at his sale tomorrow.
Anyone that Hunts small game and Varmints should try these dandy bullets - many shooters, of recent, contend that the newest version of these Winchester Power-Points are not quite as "accurate" as these older cardboard boxed munitions.
I have enough of both now to do some range testing.
Wish me luck for tomorrow.
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VarmintGuy

Great find and a great price. Congrats. I hope you got the rest of them today.

I'm happy for you. Did the same thing myself several years ago. E

Dad's 10/22 really likes that ammo. Great find!

Good squirrell ammo, ive got two cases left

+1

Tried some of the new PPs and they were no where as accurate. My Kimber 22 shoots the old ones into 1/2" at 50 yards but the new ones are about a 1.5 -2" pattern. I am hoarding 2 1/2 bricks to use for hunting only and occasional sight check.

OSU Sig: So Sunday comes along and I am waiting for the garage sale to open at nine a.m and I am about to leave my place when along comes a monster hail storm (I have picutres of 2" diameter hailstones from my yard!) and I have to abandon plans and hide my cars under trees and in the neighbors three car garage (he's away to Australia) much damage in town but my cars were safe (my three car garage was full of my other three cars).
What a mess.
Missed going back but will try and get by and see if his sale was cancelled.
I got the one carton anyway.
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VarmintGuy

Prwlr: I use the new Power-Point hollow-points in my Kimber Hunter/Silhouette and in my Remington heavy barrel 40-X and a couple other high end 22 Rifles along with several Ruger and Browning heavy barrel semi-auto pistols.
I seem to get very good accuracy in these various guns but I have just never tested the old against the new Power-Points directly. Now I have a chance and will do as soon as I get a chance.
Appreciate your experience.
Thanks.
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VarmintGuy

Great find, VG.

Some days you just get lucky

My old Winchester 75 and those old timey Power Points is the best combination of rifle and 22 ammo I have ever seen. Got four bricks of them that get used only on special occasions because I know that once they're gone, I'll never find any more at some yard sale.

I have a brick and a half left. My favorite squirrel ammo

Localdirt, Dye7barrel, Kenlguy & Thumbcocker: I made a special trip to my friends private range today as the wind was next to dead calm and no big surprise, my newest 22 rimfire Rifle shot the old Winchester ammo extremely well!
This Rifle is a laminated stock heavy barrel Ruger American Varmint/Target with a Weaver V-16 (4 to 16 power variable) groups were just at and just under 1/2" (5 shots at 50 yards).
Unfortunately my memory failed me and when I went to retrieve some of the "new" Power-Points from my range bag they were NOT there.
So comparison is held at bay for another windless day.
The ranch I was shooting on has Ground Squirrels galore on it but alas they have "gone down" for the year and none were out and about.
Would have been fun on this windless day.
Oh well - take the good with the bad.
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VarmintGuy

The old powerpoints were good for me too, as well as the Dynapoints and the standard Remington high velocity (green and yellow box). Don't know much about the new ones.
Lately I've had really good luck with Aguila SV, and the HV hasn't been far behind.
The SV is like CCI SV but cheaper and maybe even more accurate in general.

Hopefully you can pick up more PPs

unless you just have to have a hi velo round try some winchester sub sonic truncated cone hp 40 grain if you can still find them as it appears they have been dc's in favor for a 42 grain version. i have approx 6 bricks of it as all of my CZ's love it and its the best hp design i've personally seen.
Big Ed

Kragman1: Not being critical just want to know, are you talking about accuracy, lethality on small game/Varmints or a combination of both when you relay your experiences?
Thanks for you input just help me understand better.
TIA
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VarmintGuy

Whitearrow: I will be on the lookout for the Winchester sub-sonic 40 grainers.
The reason I use the higher velocity rounds is 95% of my "22" shooting/Hunting is on small game/Varmints and they are at unknown distances and the faster/flatter shooting rounds help me enjoy my ventures more.
I am just going to have to break down and lift my self imposed ban on CZ rimfires and give one (or a couple!) a try.
I just don't trust the CZ bassackwards safety and have stayed away from buying them for a long time now.
Every year I literally shoot a dozen different rimfire CZ's that belong to friends of mine and I haven't had an "A.D." (accidental discharge!) as yet.
Of course I fire each one of those friends Rifles just a time or two so maybe my hazardous forebodings are or aren't not justified - I just don't know?
Anyway I have yet to run across a CZ rimfire owner who has been disappointed in the accuracy of their rimfire Rifles!
And I have "ran across" a LOT of them!
Thanks for the tip and the input on your CZ's.
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VarmintGuy

I need to keep my eye out for more .22 rimfire ammo. I'm down to 20 or 30 bricks.

Fireball2: 22 L.R. ammunition of all kinds seem to be everywhere these days?
I still have not figured out that last rimfire shortage/scare?
Was it hussein obama instigated?
Hoarder instigated or manufacturer instigated (we make less ammo and ship less ammo and charge more for less and cheaper costs?)?
Anyway I am now, like you, in that I have enough ammo of enough kinds to "get by" (with careful useage) for the rest of my natural born days.
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VarmintGuy

Obama yelled fire and everyone hoarded. Manufacturers as a business want to make every possible penny so I am pretty sure they didn't cut the supply. As a matter of fact, a lot of the manufacturers went around the clock and we started to import some of the rimfire ammo to feed the hoarding frenzy. Quality also went down hill too with some, because they were selling everything they could make.

I have several bricks of the old gray box power-points.... would part with them for a fair price. Would prefer a ftf in Montana. Send me a pm with your price... and no I’m not going to sell them for $20 a brick. I’ll count them, but I’m thinking I have at least 8. I just don’t shoot my 22’s as much as I use to... 17 HRM fill my current rimfire needs.Regards Mitch

Mistem: P/M sent.
Thanks for the comeback.
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VarmintGuy

ammo sold- Thanks

found a sale at Reed's in Walker, MN on Federal Match 40 grain last week. Bought a case for $206 all in...

The original Power Points were the only 22 LR ammo my father and I ever bought, when I was growing up.

Sadly, all of our stash is gone and the newer Power Points we bought a few years ago, don't shoot nearly as well.

Thankfully, I heard good things about the RWS SSHP and picked up a couple of bricks. It shoots so well, that I picked up a few cases earlier this year for $250 each...

Nice find...

I have part of a brick left and they do shoot well... I was shooting a S&W 317 one day with Federal Bulk putting all the rounds in a 3" circle at 10 yards... Tried the PowerPoint for laughs and the group went down to a little bigger than a thumbnail...

Bob

RJM: I have a Smith & Wesson 4" Model 63 revolver that shoots the "new" (100 round 40 grain plastic packs) rather well - not much "range work" with it nowadays but I carry it a lot on Grouse and small game ventures. When in rattle snake country I load it with bird shot rounds.
Nice shooting there at 10 yards!
I am going to look up what a S&W Model 317 is - thanks for your input.
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VarmintGuy
P.S.: Looked it up and I see that it now can be had in 8 shot variation and has "high-vis" sights - handsome pistol and I bet VERY useful afield.
I do not admire the lawyer lock though.
Enjoy your nifty piece!

Here are the two targets I shot with the 317 on different days... The first one was SA at 10 yards the second DA at 7 yards...16 rounds DA 8 rounds SA.






The Federal bulk ammo would all go in the circle but that is it....

As to the 317...the no- doesn't have a IL. The early ones were plain black ramp front sight and the later ones a FO dot. They can be found on GunBroker quite often.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/824871872

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/819932011



Bob

Our best local shop has 50% off boxes with different ammo in them each week. A lot of it is old stock stuff but nothing wrong with it. I scored 4 100rd packs of cci maxi mags for 7.50 a piece. Box of 308 fed premium matchkings for 12.50, just because the box was wore around the edges. First place I look when I go in this store. I've got about all the guns I want or need now, outside of a stupid deal if I run across one, time to get the ammo supply up a notch.

RJM: Bob thanks for the links. Went there and looked at them - both have sold it seems.
And great shooting on your part!
That is a handsome pistol with great looking grips.
Enjoy.
Thanks again.
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VarmintGuy

Lucky bastard! Still have a case left from my initial pre-Obama buy. His line about middle America clinging to its religion and guns set me off.

Not seen any in several years, and yes they are great performers for off the shelf ammo in two of my 22's. Competition stuff is wonderful too, but I can't do $15 a box for an 8000 round ground squirrel season.

Live long and prosper,

yea...I looked through the current auctions and there was nothing but IL guns...just wanted to show you that they were around...

If you have a GB account just do a SAVED SEARCH on Smith 317 and every day GB will send you new auctions...one will come up shortly...

Bob

My favorite ammo back in the day was PMC Predator’s. I am only 36 but my first rifle when I was 5 was a Rem 581S which was pretty much a rimfire clone of the Rem 788.

That gun would shoot 1” groups at 100 yards with that ammo. My dad stockpiled a bunch of bricks over the years but I went through it all by the time I was 14.

RJM: Thank you for that tip - I have a close friend with a gunbroker account - I am not up for them as yet.
I am returning to the estate sale where I found the Power-Points originally a couple of weekends ago - and that will be bright and early tomorrow as it is back on again.
I hope they have more.
Thanks again
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VarmintGuy

I am returning to the estate sale where I found the Power-Points originally a couple of weekends ago -


Any luck??

Kenlguy: The estate sale is actually a father and a young adult son that are being evicted from their house (long term medical bills!) and they had to rent a storage unit and have put the smaller items (bullets, powder, primers etc) in the storage unit.
I bought 2,000 Federal Large Rifle Primers from them for $15.00 per one thousand before they got stowed away!
I am just sad for the two of them as they are (were) dedicated gun nut types but have fallen on hard times.
I hope they sell all their MANY thousands of primers before winter hits as the storage unit is not heated.
I don't know what the below zero temperatures will do to the powders? I think it would do no GOOD for the primers!
Anyway the ammo got stored and may have access to it later.
No luck on more as yet.
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VarmintGuy

My experience with the gray box Power Point ammo mirrors others. It shoots well and it sure smacks squirrels. I have a hoard from years ago. It is my hunting ammo.