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Thanks all - sounds encouraging.
One thing has me concerned - velocity over 200 might cause limited expansion?
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In a rifle like that, I'd do the 308 with a bit longer bbl.
That 358Win chambering, stock, short barrel, suppressor & high powered scope come together to make a goofy combo.
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Thanks all - sounds encouraging.
One thing has me concerned - velocity over 200 might cause limited expansion? I’m my case with the 225 Accubond the minimum velocity is 1800.....that takes you to 350
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The 358 reminds me of the a10 warthog. Not fast or flashy but they hammer $hit hard.
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A miracle 250 yard shot off sticks with the 200 gr TTSX.
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Here’s my modern .358 win. from Alamo Precision Rifles. 20” barrel with carbon stock. It shot factory Hornady 200 SP okay in the pic. However, necked up Lapua .308 brass, TAC powder, 200 TSX, lit by CCI250’s produce 5 shot groups in the .3”s
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Here’s my modern .358 win. from Alamo Precision Rifles. 20” barrel with carbon stock. It shot factory Hornady 200 SP okay in the pic. However, necked up Lapua .308 brass, TAC powder, 200 TSX, lit by CCI250’s produce 5 shot groups in the .3”s I like it. The Barrett Fieldcraft with the 3" mag box and a sporter'ish barrel contour would be a nice little package for a hunting .358.
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Here’s my modern .358 win. from Alamo Precision Rifles. 20” barrel with carbon stock. It shot factory Hornady 200 SP okay in the pic. However, necked up Lapua .308 brass, TAC powder, 200 TSX, lit by CCI250’s produce 5 shot groups in the .3”s Handsome rifle you've got there! I shoot the 200 TTSX along with TAC in mine too.
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A miracle 250 yard shot off sticks with the 200 gr TTSX. Great pic, and I love that rifle of yours!
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I have the modern 358 win. It's called a 338 Federal. I'm shooting 210 gr Partitions at 2600. The trajectory isnt the issue with a good scope. I put a NF SHV on mine to dial if needed - which I'm not expecting to. The issue with the 358/338 308 based cartridges is remaining velocity when said bullet arrives. Keep the bullet within its design parameters and your good to at least 300 yards.
That said, these cartridges are designed for 'woods' carry. I'd define that as inside of 200 yards. I'm taking mine elk hunting in October and plan to be able to shoot out to 350 - even with the Partitin "ping-pong" balls. I'd bet an elk shows up at sub 100 and takes a 210 Partition through the lungs. I'd bet he dont go far. I thinking if he shows up at 300, I'll have the same result.
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I like the 180 Barnes in my 358. It was made in 56 when I was 3 years old. We ain’t too modern
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.358 = Thor's Hammer 100 yards? I rorr on froor raffin' too much GI!
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.358 is more of a 100 yd. cartridge. WOW! I guess a 30-30 is about a 40 yard gun then???
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For shots out to 300 yds. the .308 would me a better choice, the .358 is more of a 100 yd. cartridge. A well constructed 165gr, bullet should do what you're looking to do, for years metallic silhouette shooters used 168gr. bullets in .308 with great success. Some used 190gr. for the rams @ 500 meters. If you are trying to not appear dumb, you're doing a really, really bad job at it
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Your post reveals just how stupid you are. GFY.
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This 358Win is my favorite rifle for many reasons... I had my CTR re-bored/chambered by JES to 358Win as well... Great Versatile Cartridge
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Thanks for the pictures. I enjoy seeing the many variations of 358s around. You don't find much ammo anywhere. Be Well. Rusty
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You don't find much ammo anywhere. Reloading is your friend for this chambering.
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The Barrett Fieldcraft with the 3" mag box and a sporter'ish barrel contour would be a nice little package for a hunting .358.
I could like that with a 2-7ish scope and a 22" bbl.
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