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Laughing!............... Just for fun sugartits! Post a picture of an elk you have killed. Hell a moose ,goat, sheep or antelope. Anything but a 55# deer. I’ll wait patiently. LOL.
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Im really annoyed with BigStik, he shows glamorous pictures of fresh fish , but never any tasty cooking recipes. This cow got Scenar'ed with my 20" .308 T3. she was a shade over 600 yards ..
only thing that beats getting ' sCenar'ed is getting Creedmoored.
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Never seen a deader horse take such a beating. Again THIS year. Jerry I'm thinking the first time you got to be part of the 308 vs 30/06 discussion it was probably kinda cool! Since the world only revolves around you once youve been fed it need not ever be discussed again. Do you see just how self fugging centered you two jackwads are???? Seriously, if you can't stand it well take a self centered fugging hike and allow those who give a [bleep] about our future generations to entertain these youngsters with dignity and respect.
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30-06 I just like the round and it has always performed well. I also like the 308 nothing wrong with it. I own two of each so I don't have to choose.
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At the end of the day, is there anything significant the .308 can do ballistically that a .30-06 can't do if loaded to the same pressures? No;
Is there anything the .30-60 can do ballistically that the .308 Win can't do id loaded to the same pressures? Yes - the 30-06 has some advantage with heavy for caliber bullets.
It the difference significant for the vast majority of shooting opportunities? No.
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No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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Never seen a deader horse take such a beating. Again THIS year. Jerry I'm thinking the first time you got to be part of the 308 vs 30/06 discussion it was probably kinda cool! Since the world only revolves around you once youve been fed it need not ever be discussed again. Do you see just how self fugging centered you two jackwads are???? Seriously, if you can't stand it well take a self centered fugging hike and allow those who give a [bleep] about our future generations to entertain these youngsters with dignity and respect. You’re right.....maybe it’s finally time to post all those 2”-Tikka-at-500-yards-groups you were talking about. That horse is still wiggling a little.
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Never seen a deader horse take such a beating. Again THIS year. Jerry I'm thinking the first time you got to be part of the 308 vs 30/06 discussion it was probably kinda cool! Since the world only revolves around you once youve been fed it need not ever be discussed again. Do you see just how self fugging centered you two jackwads are???? Seriously, if you can't stand it well take a self centered fugging hike and allow those who give a [bleep] about our future generations to entertain these youngsters with dignity and respect. You’re right.....maybe it’s finally time to post all those 2”-Tikka-at-500-yards-groups you were talking about. That horse is still wiggling a little. Your too cool for me I'm having a hard time keeping up
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I have neither one right now. After reading this, I better getter get a 30-06 if I want the bullet to actually penetrate game more than 3/4 of an inch. I learn something every day here I tell ya! Then again I OWN A 280 a 30-06 is obsolete.
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I have neither one right now. After reading this, I better getter get a 30-06 if I want the bullet to actually penetrate game more than 3/4 of an inch. I learn something every day here I tell ya! Well the 308 only kills em 95% dead compared to 100% dead from an 06! Both are dead but one is deader 😃
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A 280 will kill em and they take a step BACKWARDS.
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I have neither one right now. After reading this, I better getter get a 30-06 if I want the bullet to actually penetrate game more than 3/4 of an inch. I learn something every day here I tell ya! Well the 308 only kills em 95% dead compared to 100% dead from an 06! Both are dead but one is deader 😃 I don't where you came up with 95%. I get more like 96.2%,that's a 1.26315789% improvement over your figure. It is not like a .30-30, a notorious blunt-force killer. I have all three and will eventually shoot deer with them, so I know...
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I have 8 30-06's and 5 308's so I guess it's the 30-06 but I really like my 308's, I'm confused!
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Well for a guy who DOES NOT RELOAD and only uses Factory ammo- which one????
And is the 180g 30/06 the heaviest factory loading now in that caliber? A quick check at Midway shows 4 different factory loadings in stock from 200gr to 220gr by Federal, HSM and Remington.
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I have shot .308s on and off for years. I like them just fine. I recently inherited a 30-06 that belonged to my fil. It is a good rifle, but definitely one of the hardest-kicking rifle that I have ever shot. It kicks harder than either one of my 7 mags. I am not recoil shy, but it just seems strange to me that the recoil is so much more, than the .308, with the same bullet. It is only about 75 fps faster with my handloads, than the .308.
I lean toward the .308, because I have become a real fan of short-action rounds. Other than that, it is a wash for me, as I do not need 200-grain bullets for anything.
Either one goes to the sidelines, en lieu of my 6.5 calibers.
You did not "seen" anything, you "saw" it. A "creek" has water in it, a "crick" is what you get in your neck. Liberals with guns are nothing but hypocrites.
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Either one goes to the sidelines, en lieu of my 6.5 calibers. My philosophy and I'm not saying it's any kind of golden rule or correct for anybody else is......The 6.5 covers most everything and what it doesn't cover a 338/06 or 35 whelen makes more sense with 200+ grain bullets! Didn't mean to completely derail the thread but it WAS starting to fizzle and sometimes a controversial statement can be good for several more pages 😁 Not to mention it would be unfair to the 338/06 and 35 Whelen crowd to not get an honorable mention since they are based on an 06 case! Is that close enouph??? 😃
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Either one goes to the sidelines, en lieu of my 6.5 calibers. My philosophy and I'm not saying it's any kind of golden rule or correct for anybody else is......The 6.5 covers most everything and what it doesn't cover a 338/06 or 35 whelen makes more sense with 200+ grain bullets! Didn't mean to completely derail the thread but it WAS starting to fizzle and sometimes a controversial statement can be good for several more pages 😁 Not to mention it would be unfair to the 338/06 and 35 Whelen crowd to not get an honorable mention since they are based on an 06 case! Is that close enouph??? 😃 Don't forget the 350 Legend as a sidebar when you talk about 35 bores.
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I have them both and just don't see much difference at all. It is more the rifle I want to hunt with on a particular day and not whether it is a 308 or 30/06. Savage 99 in 308 or Husqvarna in 30/06. Might depend on the stand I'm hunting too. Most of my 308's are shorter than my 30/06's. Not necessarily because to the action length but the barrel lengths...
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Either one goes to the sidelines, en lieu of my 6.5 calibers. My philosophy and I'm not saying it's any kind of golden rule or correct for anybody else is......The 6.5 covers most everything and what it doesn't cover a 338/06 or 35 whelen makes more sense with 200+ grain bullets! Didn't mean to completely derail the thread but it WAS starting to fizzle and sometimes a controversial statement can be good for several more pages 😁 Not to mention it would be unfair to the 338/06 and 35 Whelen crowd to not get an honorable mention since they are based on an 06 case! Is that close enouph??? 😃 Don't forget the 350 Legend as a sidebar when you talk about 35 bores. I think that the Legend is pretty limited in its range.
You did not "seen" anything, you "saw" it. A "creek" has water in it, a "crick" is what you get in your neck. Liberals with guns are nothing but hypocrites.
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