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Wonder what the profit margin might be, fueling up C-17 cargo planes at a small local airport at commercial prices instead of at the normal military bases? In an apparent new ( or just discovered) plan that is what is being done in an effort to keep a small local airport from failing near one of Trumps hotels in Ireland. Closure of which would sound the death knell for Trumps hotel which itself is doing badly. Side tracking the cargo planes in both directions making normal delivery's to Kuwait to refuel at and have the crews stay at Trump hotel. Tally so far I guess exceeds 11 mill.
Just another Trump scheme to enrich family holdings at taxpayer expense.
Phil No idea of actual costs of fuel (private (locally sourced) vs. military delivery), but did have a conversation with a LT Col/Col once regarding the cost of fuel to front line Military operations. (Fuel was his specialty) Fuel flown (in tankers) from US (or ally nations) to Bases... then trucked to forward operations. Don't recall if he said $25 or $50 a gallon, but whatever it was... the "handling cost" was the real killer expense. Maybe the Private Airport has less "handling cost". No idea. Please post up some actual fuel costs so we can understand your point better.
Last edited by CashisKing; 09/07/19. Reason: Typos... as always
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Well we're Green and we're Gold, and we play better when it's cold. All us Cheese heads have our favorite superstar. We love Brett Favre.
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from the comment section:
Conni Ohler Eckstein My son flew into Shannon after his Iraq deployment in 2009. He told me Ireland was the most beautiful land he'd ever seen. I wish we could have visited Ireland together.
Mako Koiwai Landed there 45 years ago on a military transport
if a man speaks, and there isn't a woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?
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Excellent descriptor of the democrat party, and all their sub-categories.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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Its entertaining to read what the old ghost conjures up as logic. I hope he stays in CA. - he is among lunatic friends.
My home is the "sanctuary residence" for my firearms.
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Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?
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Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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Shannon airport is hardly a small local airport, it’s the first airport you pass when coming across the Atlantic from North America so it’s always been used by a bunch of military aircraft as a refueling stop. If you’ve ever been deployed to Europe in the military you’ve likely been through Shannon. C-17’s we’re refueling there long before Trump got into politics. That’s why they have contract fuel which as Pugs mentioned is at pre-negotiated rates which are very cheap, they’re hardly getting rich selling fuel to the US military.
If you take a commercial flight to Europe 98% of the time your designated divert airport is going to be Shannon. It’s strategic location has made it a busy place a long time before Trump put a golf course in Ireland. That part of Ireland has been full of golf courses for a long time, Trump didn’t come up with the idea.
The whole idea that Trump is somehow steering military traffic there is ludicrous, we’ve been regulars there since WWII.
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Well done Mr. President, well done.
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Wonder what the profit margin might be, fueling up C-17 cargo planes at a small local airport at commercial prices instead of at the normal military bases? In an apparent new ( or just discovered) plan that is what is being done in an effort to keep a small local airport from failing near one of Trumps hotels in Ireland. Closure of which would sound the death knell for Trumps hotel which itself is doing badly. Side tracking the cargo planes in both directions making normal delivery's to Kuwait to refuel at and have the crews stay at Trump hotel. Tally so far I guess exceeds 11 mill.
Just another Trump scheme to enrich family holdings at taxpayer expense.
Phil Talk about no shame or morals. Why did you try to mislead us?
Broncos are officially the worst team in the nation this year.
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Wonder what the profit margin might be, fueling up C-17 cargo planes at a small local airport at commercial prices instead of at the normal military bases? In an apparent new ( or just discovered) plan that is what is being done in an effort to keep a small local airport from failing near one of Trumps hotels in Ireland. Closure of which would sound the death knell for Trumps hotel which itself is doing badly. Side tracking the cargo planes in both directions making normal delivery's to Kuwait to refuel at and have the crews stay at Trump hotel. Tally so far I guess exceeds 11 mill.
Just another Trump scheme to enrich family holdings at taxpayer expense.
Phil Talk about no shame or morals. Why did you try to mislead us? Dimocraps lie. It's what they do.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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You poor, poor pitiful waste of skin, but hey, at least you got your geographical locale right.
Trump Won!
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TDS is where any item found that is critical of President Trump is regurgitated without critical assessment and lauded as fact merely by nature of it being against the Pres.
OP- could you tell me how you’re NOT suffering from TDS?
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Interesting topic title....coming from a member who supports the democratic socialist party of America.... The party that inspires the likes of ANTIFA and abortion activists who are now pimping live birth abortion....I could go on and on, but it would be a waste of time....some people are just [bleep] stupid...
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TDS is where any item found that is critical of President Trump is regurgitated without critical assessment and lauded as fact merely by nature of it being against the Pres.
OP- could you tell me how you’re NOT suffering from TDS? I want him to tell us why China and Japan dont have open borders and muzzy immigration if it's such a good idea.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Geeesus, if you pay attention as you read the discussions on here, over time you realize there just isn't anybody here who has any morals or shame, so they have no grounds in which to berate others for lack of same. 50 years ago they were out getting drunk, doing acid, mushrooms or blow while fuucking anything that would spread it's legs and breaking the law with impunity. Now all they do is sit around and bitch about others that do the same, particularly if they are young or black or both.
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Geeesus, if you pay attention as you read the discussions on here, over time you realize there just isn't anybody here who has any morals or shame, so they have no grounds in which to berate others for lack of same. 50 years ago they were out getting drunk, doing acid, mushrooms or blow while fuucking anything that would spread it's legs and breaking the law with impunity. Now all they do is sit around and bitch about others that do the same, particularly if they are young or HATE THE USA AND 2A.. FIXT
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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My wife and I were in Ireland last May. Great trip. We landed in Dublin, but were told by the Irish people Shannon is the better place to fly into. Highly recommend Ireland. Everyone I know who has gone there would immediately go back if they could.
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Jets from the local AFB fly over our place all the time.
On the way to refuel at the commercial airport. That Trump fellow is everywhere, I tell ya.
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