Things are even more confusing than usual in QAnon land, where the shuttering of 8Chan in the wake of the El Paso shooting means QAnon believers have lost the one forum where they know “Q” posts his clues.
Without Q to keep them united, QAnon world has become obsessed, inexplicably, with a Santa Claus. As QAnon-watcher Mike Rothschild noted on Thursday, QAnon Twitter has been overwhelmed with tweets about Santa, “Mrs. Claus,” Santa emojis, and believers bragging about belonging to a “permanent nice list.”
The whole thing has turned into a QAnon civil war, with Santa believers tweeting “#IStandWithSanta” and pushing to overturn the old hierarchy of previous QAnon hucksters.
As it turns out, the whole feud has a lot to do with—you guessed it—John F. Kennedy Jr.
In the past, silence from Q has been a boon to rival hucksters. When Q disappeared for a period sometime in early 2018, a mysterious character named “R”—the letter after Q in the alphabet—showed and convinced a chunk of believers that JFK Jr. was not only still alive, but was playing Q in a complicated scheme with Donald Trump to take down the pedophiles of the deep state.
Now, with Q lost somewhere in the ether once again, many QAnon followers are flocking to a QAnon-adjacent Twitter user calling himself “Santa Claus of the United States.”
The Santa account bears a lot of stylistic similarities to whoever’s behind Q. He posts cryptic messages, and is constantly hinting that the world will change dramatically on certain dates (also like Q, none of this has actually come true). He’s also constantly dropping hints that he’s JFK Jr. himself in disguise—a claim that has, naturally, made him a star in the QAnon faction that buys into the JFK Jr. angle.
All of this is accompanied by an avalanche of .gifs from Santa-themed movies, including The Santa Clause and Kurt Russell’s The Christmas Chronicles.
QAnon has always had an element of wish-fulfillment to it, with believers begging Trump on Twitter to make their dreams come true by abrogating the Constitution and throwing Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama into Guantanamo Bay. But this mysterious Santa Twitter person makes that almost childlike aspect of the conspiracy theory even more explicit: fans of the account say things like “Dear Santa,Can we please get just 1 hi profile, DEEP STATE arrest this Christmas?”
Maybe more disturbingly, Santa keeps all his minions in line with a thing called “#PermanentNiceList,” which appears to just be the list of people he follows on Twitter. Fans that Santa follows rejoice that they’re on the list, which they appear to think means they’re being followed on Twitter by JFK Jr.
QAnon believers who back Santa in his various feuds—who call themselves “elves”—ask which other QAnon personalities they should block in order to stay on the list.
“Is there a list we can view the people we are advised not to follow?” one fan tweeted. “I definitely want to stay on the #PermanentNiceList.”
Santa has mobilized his growing army of elves in an attempt to twist around who’s who in QAnon land, urging his fans to abandon prominent QAnon personalities like Michael Flynn in favor of his Santa-themed coterie.
This has provoked a big backlash from some of the more prominent QAnon pushers, who have long seen the JFK Jr. thing as an embarrassing distraction from their otherwise very serious efforts to decode Trump’s hand signs and investigate pizzerias. “Joe M,” a top QAnon guy whose videos explaining the conspiracy theory have been picked up by people as prominent as former pitcher Curt Schilling, has denounced Santa as the leader of a “street gang” and a “thug.”
Naturally, there is also merch to be sold. Whoever’s behind the Santa account sells all kinds of gear with “#PermanentNiceList” on it. For $48, you can get a “Permanent Nice List” sweatshirt. For $20, you can have a cellphone declaring yourself a “Permanent Elf.”
Incredibly, people are actually buying these clothes, then posting about their hauls on Twitter. One Twitter user even claimed to have bought a whole set for her family:
Funny how you and Steve have now quoted the same author, Mike Rothschild! Bwaaahhhh ........
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Sooner or later our heritage of hunting is going to be a rich mans sport and the words "Outfitter" and "Hunt Industry" will be synonymous with cancer and A.I.D.S. among blue collar hunters like me and my family!(A.L. Williams - 2010)
Things are even more confusing than usual in QAnon land, where the shuttering of 8Chan in the wake of the El Paso shooting means QAnon believers have lost the one forum where they know “Q” posts his clues.
Without Q to keep them united, QAnon world has become obsessed, inexplicably, with a Santa Claus. As QAnon-watcher Mike Rothschild noted on Thursday, QAnon Twitter has been overwhelmed with tweets about Santa, “Mrs. Claus,” Santa emojis, and believers bragging about belonging to a “permanent nice list.”
The whole thing has turned into a QAnon civil war, with Santa believers tweeting “#IStandWithSanta” and pushing to overturn the old hierarchy of previous QAnon hucksters.
As it turns out, the whole feud has a lot to do with—you guessed it—John F. Kennedy Jr.
In the past, silence from Q has been a boon to rival hucksters. When Q disappeared for a period sometime in early 2018, a mysterious character named “R”—the letter after Q in the alphabet—showed and convinced a chunk of believers that JFK Jr. was not only still alive, but was playing Q in a complicated scheme with Donald Trump to take down the pedophiles of the deep state.
Now, with Q lost somewhere in the ether once again, many QAnon followers are flocking to a QAnon-adjacent Twitter user calling himself “Santa Claus of the United States.”
The Santa account bears a lot of stylistic similarities to whoever’s behind Q. He posts cryptic messages, and is constantly hinting that the world will change dramatically on certain dates (also like Q, none of this has actually come true). He’s also constantly dropping hints that he’s JFK Jr. himself in disguise—a claim that has, naturally, made him a star in the QAnon faction that buys into the JFK Jr. angle.
All of this is accompanied by an avalanche of .gifs from Santa-themed movies, including The Santa Clause and Kurt Russell’s The Christmas Chronicles.
QAnon has always had an element of wish-fulfillment to it, with believers begging Trump on Twitter to make their dreams come true by abrogating the Constitution and throwing Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama into Guantanamo Bay. But this mysterious Santa Twitter person makes that almost childlike aspect of the conspiracy theory even more explicit: fans of the account say things like “Dear Santa,Can we please get just 1 hi profile, DEEP STATE arrest this Christmas?”
Maybe more disturbingly, Santa keeps all his minions in line with a thing called “#PermanentNiceList,” which appears to just be the list of people he follows on Twitter. Fans that Santa follows rejoice that they’re on the list, which they appear to think means they’re being followed on Twitter by JFK Jr.
QAnon believers who back Santa in his various feuds—who call themselves “elves”—ask which other QAnon personalities they should block in order to stay on the list.
“Is there a list we can view the people we are advised not to follow?” one fan tweeted. “I definitely want to stay on the #PermanentNiceList.”
Santa has mobilized his growing army of elves in an attempt to twist around who’s who in QAnon land, urging his fans to abandon prominent QAnon personalities like Michael Flynn in favor of his Santa-themed coterie.
This has provoked a big backlash from some of the more prominent QAnon pushers, who have long seen the JFK Jr. thing as an embarrassing distraction from their otherwise very serious efforts to decode Trump’s hand signs and investigate pizzerias. “Joe M,” a top QAnon guy whose videos explaining the conspiracy theory have been picked up by people as prominent as former pitcher Curt Schilling, has denounced Santa as the leader of a “street gang” and a “thug.”
Naturally, there is also merch to be sold. Whoever’s behind the Santa account sells all kinds of gear with “#PermanentNiceList” on it. For $48, you can get a “Permanent Nice List” sweatshirt. For $20, you can have a cellphone declaring yourself a “Permanent Elf.”
Incredibly, people are actually buying these clothes, then posting about their hauls on Twitter. One Twitter user even claimed to have bought a whole set for her family:
Funny how you and Steve have now quoted the same author, Mike Rothschild! Bwaaahhhh ........
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Now that is darn funny XV. They have just named themselves. LOL
Things are even more confusing than usual in QAnon land, where the shuttering of 8Chan in the wake of the El Paso shooting means QAnon believers have lost the one forum where they know “Q” posts his clues.
Without Q to keep them united, QAnon world has become obsessed, inexplicably, with a Santa Claus. As QAnon-watcher Mike Rothschild noted on Thursday, QAnon Twitter has been overwhelmed with tweets about Santa, “Mrs. Claus,” Santa emojis, and believers bragging about belonging to a “permanent nice list.”
The whole thing has turned into a QAnon civil war, with Santa believers tweeting “#IStandWithSanta” and pushing to overturn the old hierarchy of previous QAnon hucksters.
As it turns out, the whole feud has a lot to do with—you guessed it—John F. Kennedy Jr.
In the past, silence from Q has been a boon to rival hucksters. When Q disappeared for a period sometime in early 2018, a mysterious character named “R”—the letter after Q in the alphabet—showed and convinced a chunk of believers that JFK Jr. was not only still alive, but was playing Q in a complicated scheme with Donald Trump to take down the pedophiles of the deep state.
Now, with Q lost somewhere in the ether once again, many QAnon followers are flocking to a QAnon-adjacent Twitter user calling himself “Santa Claus of the United States.”
The Santa account bears a lot of stylistic similarities to whoever’s behind Q. He posts cryptic messages, and is constantly hinting that the world will change dramatically on certain dates (also like Q, none of this has actually come true). He’s also constantly dropping hints that he’s JFK Jr. himself in disguise—a claim that has, naturally, made him a star in the QAnon faction that buys into the JFK Jr. angle.
All of this is accompanied by an avalanche of .gifs from Santa-themed movies, including The Santa Clause and Kurt Russell’s The Christmas Chronicles.
QAnon has always had an element of wish-fulfillment to it, with believers begging Trump on Twitter to make their dreams come true by abrogating the Constitution and throwing Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama into Guantanamo Bay. But this mysterious Santa Twitter person makes that almost childlike aspect of the conspiracy theory even more explicit: fans of the account say things like “Dear Santa,Can we please get just 1 hi profile, DEEP STATE arrest this Christmas?”
Maybe more disturbingly, Santa keeps all his minions in line with a thing called “#PermanentNiceList,” which appears to just be the list of people he follows on Twitter. Fans that Santa follows rejoice that they’re on the list, which they appear to think means they’re being followed on Twitter by JFK Jr.
QAnon believers who back Santa in his various feuds—who call themselves “elves”—ask which other QAnon personalities they should block in order to stay on the list.
“Is there a list we can view the people we are advised not to follow?” one fan tweeted. “I definitely want to stay on the #PermanentNiceList.”
Santa has mobilized his growing army of elves in an attempt to twist around who’s who in QAnon land, urging his fans to abandon prominent QAnon personalities like Michael Flynn in favor of his Santa-themed coterie.
This has provoked a big backlash from some of the more prominent QAnon pushers, who have long seen the JFK Jr. thing as an embarrassing distraction from their otherwise very serious efforts to decode Trump’s hand signs and investigate pizzerias. “Joe M,” a top QAnon guy whose videos explaining the conspiracy theory have been picked up by people as prominent as former pitcher Curt Schilling, has denounced Santa as the leader of a “street gang” and a “thug.”
Naturally, there is also merch to be sold. Whoever’s behind the Santa account sells all kinds of gear with “#PermanentNiceList” on it. For $48, you can get a “Permanent Nice List” sweatshirt. For $20, you can have a cellphone declaring yourself a “Permanent Elf.”
Incredibly, people are actually buying these clothes, then posting about their hauls on Twitter. One Twitter user even claimed to have bought a whole set for her family:
Funny how you and Steve have now quoted the same author, Mike Rothschild! Bwaaahhhh ........
"As a practicing attorney in State and Federal courts for many years, here is a typical case. Client has a winning claim; lawyer figures out winning arguments fairly quickly.
Defense tries delay, confusion, bogus counterclaims, and offers to negotiate but with no real satisfaction. Your client tries one or more procedural moves to win a judgment early, but is often rebuffed by a judge too ignorant, afraid or partisan to rule in your favor. How could the order say THAT? is common.
Frustration, run-arounds, more games. Finally the opponent runs out of cash to finance oppo, starts procedurally defaulting and proffering excuses as the inevitable appears on the horizon. At this point a default or procedural motion breaks their back.
Judgment. Victory. Execution on assets. At this point defendant has 4 options: (1) pay up (which usually they can't do because they put all their eggs into a BS defense that failed), (2) agree to work hard and pay the judgment in installments, (3) bankruptcy (too disgraceful for many), or (4) have a heart attack on an untraceable island, to live out life abroad.
All the while the winners are growing more and more frustrated waiting for closure. (#QArmy.)
In the case of a very rich defendant, delay and unlimited resources cause many a valid claimant to give up.
The defendants in the Q plan range from the paper wealthy to societal behomeths.
The Dec 2017 EO is the great equalizer. So too are assaults mounted by Rep. Nunes, JudicialWatch, the Covington kids and 45 himself against #FakeNews -- their "loss leader" but critical to their defense of shaping public opinion (and any jury ).
Attacking Fake News seems tedious at times, but weakening their scouts and couriers is felt by the leaders, and increases THEIR stress level, which in turn leads to hasty mistake after hasty mistake. Notice the recent "unforced errors" of their lead propagandists at NYT WAPO CNN MSNBC?
We are now in "late stage" Fake News. They are "making up" facts since reality is starting to dawn on the populace (jury), which once and maybe still think Hussein was America's savior, along with the motley crew of 2020 Dem candidates.
Little solace to the QArmy, which tends to stress over every twist, turn,and mischarcterization of the litigation.
There's a reason Q keeps repeating: Enjoy the Show. That's a good way to look at it.
One more thing: while defendants may ultimately admit guilt in writing, seldom will they submit to a 1984-style public oral confession for all to see.
'Saving face' is trait practiced everywhere.
Until it's "over," it's pretty much all stress and disappointment. So it's best to let 45 and Q keep winning in small yet savory bites, and watching rats scurry from the light.
We are witnessing the greatest slow-motion knockout of all time, reversing years of abuse. So in reality, the more methodical the execution the better.
A fact to remember................................................ "Children are not sexual beings. So when you sexualize and or sexually abuse a child, they dissociate in order to cope. As a consequence of this dissociation, their mind splits or fractures, like a mirror, alters or alternate personalities are created. These compartmentalized aspects of a person can then be used by the ‘handler’ to virtually and completely control someone, mind, body and soul. They become a slave. It’s safe to say, no one is elevated to stardom without being subjected to this horrifying, mind splitting process."
Things are even more confusing than usual in QAnon land, where the shuttering of 8Chan in the wake of the El Paso shooting means QAnon believers have lost the one forum where they know “Q” posts his clues.
Without Q to keep them united, QAnon world has become obsessed, inexplicably, with a Santa Claus. As QAnon-watcher Mike Rothschild noted on Thursday, QAnon Twitter has been overwhelmed with tweets about Santa, “Mrs. Claus,” Santa emojis, and believers bragging about belonging to a “permanent nice list.”
The whole thing has turned into a QAnon civil war, with Santa believers tweeting “#IStandWithSanta” and pushing to overturn the old hierarchy of previous QAnon hucksters.
As it turns out, the whole feud has a lot to do with—you guessed it—John F. Kennedy Jr.
In the past, silence from Q has been a boon to rival hucksters. When Q disappeared for a period sometime in early 2018, a mysterious character named “R”—the letter after Q in the alphabet—showed and convinced a chunk of believers that JFK Jr. was not only still alive, but was playing Q in a complicated scheme with Donald Trump to take down the pedophiles of the deep state.
Now, with Q lost somewhere in the ether once again, many QAnon followers are flocking to a QAnon-adjacent Twitter user calling himself “Santa Claus of the United States.”
The Santa account bears a lot of stylistic similarities to whoever’s behind Q. He posts cryptic messages, and is constantly hinting that the world will change dramatically on certain dates (also like Q, none of this has actually come true). He’s also constantly dropping hints that he’s JFK Jr. himself in disguise—a claim that has, naturally, made him a star in the QAnon faction that buys into the JFK Jr. angle.
All of this is accompanied by an avalanche of .gifs from Santa-themed movies, including The Santa Clause and Kurt Russell’s The Christmas Chronicles.
QAnon has always had an element of wish-fulfillment to it, with believers begging Trump on Twitter to make their dreams come true by abrogating the Constitution and throwing Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama into Guantanamo Bay. But this mysterious Santa Twitter person makes that almost childlike aspect of the conspiracy theory even more explicit: fans of the account say things like “Dear Santa,Can we please get just 1 hi profile, DEEP STATE arrest this Christmas?”
Maybe more disturbingly, Santa keeps all his minions in line with a thing called “#PermanentNiceList,” which appears to just be the list of people he follows on Twitter. Fans that Santa follows rejoice that they’re on the list, which they appear to think means they’re being followed on Twitter by JFK Jr.
QAnon believers who back Santa in his various feuds—who call themselves “elves”—ask which other QAnon personalities they should block in order to stay on the list.
“Is there a list we can view the people we are advised not to follow?” one fan tweeted. “I definitely want to stay on the #PermanentNiceList.”
Santa has mobilized his growing army of elves in an attempt to twist around who’s who in QAnon land, urging his fans to abandon prominent QAnon personalities like Michael Flynn in favor of his Santa-themed coterie.
This has provoked a big backlash from some of the more prominent QAnon pushers, who have long seen the JFK Jr. thing as an embarrassing distraction from their otherwise very serious efforts to decode Trump’s hand signs and investigate pizzerias. “Joe M,” a top QAnon guy whose videos explaining the conspiracy theory have been picked up by people as prominent as former pitcher Curt Schilling, has denounced Santa as the leader of a “street gang” and a “thug.”
Naturally, there is also merch to be sold. Whoever’s behind the Santa account sells all kinds of gear with “#PermanentNiceList” on it. For $48, you can get a “Permanent Nice List” sweatshirt. For $20, you can have a cellphone declaring yourself a “Permanent Elf.”
Incredibly, people are actually buying these clothes, then posting about their hauls on Twitter. One Twitter user even claimed to have bought a whole set for her family:
Funny how you and Steve have now quoted the same author, Mike Rothschild! Bwaaahhhh ........
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Funny how none of the Qbers can ever answer a simple question like "Is it true?". . A simple yes or no would suffice. I'll go ahead and assume the article is true given your unwillingness to give an answer or discuss the issue. At this point I just want to know which campfire Qbers are proudly sporting #PermanentNiceList apparel and who isn't. Bwaaahhhh.
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
There is no believing a liar, even when he speaks the truth.
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
There is no believing a liar, even when he speaks the truth.
On Tuesday, the Denver-based U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit ruled that the Colorado secretary of state violated the Constitution when he removed an Electoral College delegate who had chosen to vote for John Kasich instead of Hillary Clinton. The secretary of state nullified the vote of the delegate and installed a new delegate who voted in accordance with the popular vote of the state of Colorado. ———-
Meaning that the EC Delegates can cast their vote form whomever they wish, they do not have to vote for the candidate that won the state popular vote.
Do you consider this good news?
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
Things are even more confusing than usual in QAnon land, where the shuttering of 8Chan in the wake of the El Paso shooting means QAnon believers have lost the one forum where they know “Q” posts his clues.
Without Q to keep them united, QAnon world has become obsessed, inexplicably, with a Santa Claus. As QAnon-watcher Mike Rothschild noted on Thursday, QAnon Twitter has been overwhelmed with tweets about Santa, “Mrs. Claus,” Santa emojis, and believers bragging about belonging to a “permanent nice list.”
The whole thing has turned into a QAnon civil war, with Santa believers tweeting “#IStandWithSanta” and pushing to overturn the old hierarchy of previous QAnon hucksters.
As it turns out, the whole feud has a lot to do with—you guessed it—John F. Kennedy Jr.
In the past, silence from Q has been a boon to rival hucksters. When Q disappeared for a period sometime in early 2018, a mysterious character named “R”—the letter after Q in the alphabet—showed and convinced a chunk of believers that JFK Jr. was not only still alive, but was playing Q in a complicated scheme with Donald Trump to take down the pedophiles of the deep state.
Now, with Q lost somewhere in the ether once again, many QAnon followers are flocking to a QAnon-adjacent Twitter user calling himself “Santa Claus of the United States.”
The Santa account bears a lot of stylistic similarities to whoever’s behind Q. He posts cryptic messages, and is constantly hinting that the world will change dramatically on certain dates (also like Q, none of this has actually come true). He’s also constantly dropping hints that he’s JFK Jr. himself in disguise—a claim that has, naturally, made him a star in the QAnon faction that buys into the JFK Jr. angle.
All of this is accompanied by an avalanche of .gifs from Santa-themed movies, including The Santa Clause and Kurt Russell’s The Christmas Chronicles.
QAnon has always had an element of wish-fulfillment to it, with believers begging Trump on Twitter to make their dreams come true by abrogating the Constitution and throwing Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama into Guantanamo Bay. But this mysterious Santa Twitter person makes that almost childlike aspect of the conspiracy theory even more explicit: fans of the account say things like “Dear Santa,Can we please get just 1 hi profile, DEEP STATE arrest this Christmas?”
Maybe more disturbingly, Santa keeps all his minions in line with a thing called “#PermanentNiceList,” which appears to just be the list of people he follows on Twitter. Fans that Santa follows rejoice that they’re on the list, which they appear to think means they’re being followed on Twitter by JFK Jr.
QAnon believers who back Santa in his various feuds—who call themselves “elves”—ask which other QAnon personalities they should block in order to stay on the list.
“Is there a list we can view the people we are advised not to follow?” one fan tweeted. “I definitely want to stay on the #PermanentNiceList.”
Santa has mobilized his growing army of elves in an attempt to twist around who’s who in QAnon land, urging his fans to abandon prominent QAnon personalities like Michael Flynn in favor of his Santa-themed coterie.
This has provoked a big backlash from some of the more prominent QAnon pushers, who have long seen the JFK Jr. thing as an embarrassing distraction from their otherwise very serious efforts to decode Trump’s hand signs and investigate pizzerias. “Joe M,” a top QAnon guy whose videos explaining the conspiracy theory have been picked up by people as prominent as former pitcher Curt Schilling, has denounced Santa as the leader of a “street gang” and a “thug.”
Naturally, there is also merch to be sold. Whoever’s behind the Santa account sells all kinds of gear with “#PermanentNiceList” on it. For $48, you can get a “Permanent Nice List” sweatshirt. For $20, you can have a cellphone declaring yourself a “Permanent Elf.”
Incredibly, people are actually buying these clothes, then posting about their hauls on Twitter. One Twitter user even claimed to have bought a whole set for her family:
Funny how you and Steve have now quoted the same author, Mike Rothschild! Bwaaahhhh ........
X-VERMINATOR
Funny how none of the Qbers can ever answer a simple question like "Is it true?".. A simple yes or no would suffice. I'll go ahead and assume the article is true given your unwillingness to give an answer or discuss the issue. At this point I just want to know which campfire Qbers are proudly sporting #PermanentNiceList apparel and who isn't. Bwaaahhhh.
Funny, sad and childish.
Excellent post BTW.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
K-lickbait-22 is playing a game posting links without a comment, quotes, or context, it's your choice to play along or not. I refuse to play and won't click any of his link only posts.
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
There is no believing a liar, even when he speaks the truth.
K-lickbait-22 is playing a game posting links without a comment, quotes, or context, it's your choice to play along or not. I refuse to play and won't click any of his link only posts.
He and the Q-bers here call that Research.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
K-lickbait-22 is playing a game posting links without a comment, quotes, or context, it's your choice to play along or not. I refuse to play and won't click any of his link only posts.
Without any comment or context about what's in a link I'm not going to even bother looking at it, I see no point in trying to guess why the link was posted, guessing how it relates to this thread, or guessing what point he trying to make other than just trolling for some sort of response. Most posters will include a short comment with a link for further discussion. My other thought is that K22 is at times just looking for an excuse to bump this thread so it doesn't disappear into the back pages of the campfire.
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
There is no believing a liar, even when he speaks the truth.
