OK, ship and boat guys. A 700 foot long ship loaded with 1,000 cars. How do they fix this? Do they try to get the ship upright there in the ocean? Do they bring in a submarine for torpedo practice and just sink it? Seriously, do they tow it back to port, or what?
I wonder the same thing.
That's one F'ed up situation right there.
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OK, ship and boat guys. A 700 foot long ship loaded with 1,000 cars. How do they fix this? Do they try to get the ship upright there in the ocean? Do they bring in a submarine for torpedo practice and just sink it? Seriously, do they tow it back to port, or what?
I wonder the same thing.
That's one F'ed up situation right there.
You can bet that there will be some big air bags involved. I’m thinking about a cruise ship that ran aground and ended up on its side. Hasbeen
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I doubt they attempt to bring it into port in that condition. You could potentially tie up port operations for a long time if things went bad. Think of a cork in a bottle. My guess is that they would tow it into protected waters where it could be anchored securely and stabilized. Once that was done, they probably attempt some sort of parbuckling operation. The design of the ship will make removing cargo very difficult. That's going to require a world class salvage company and a lot of coordination. The Coast Guard has their hands full here and it won't be cheap for the shipping company.
Deadlines and commitments, what to leave in, what to leave out...
If (one of the hugest words in the language) it's mostly a flooded compartment issue, they should be able to pump them out one at a time until the ship rights itself. After that, it would seem to be a simpler matter. Not easy, but simpler.
I don't see any recent updates on the four missing persons or rescue ops. Anybody have one?
If (one of the hugest words in the language) it's mostly a flooded compartment issue, they should be able to pump them out one at a time until the ship rights itself. After that, it would seem to be a simpler matter. Not easy, but simpler.
I don't see any recent updates on the four missing persons or rescue ops. Anybody have one?
They have been located (alive), and efforts are underway to rescue them -- FOX News
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was told back in '77 when I bought my first brand new car, a Subaru wagon, that the "loop" in front that I thought would be a towing spot was actually for tying them down on the ship for transport. Have noticed all my cars since have them, so I'll make the grand assumption they were tied down.
Loose cargo on a seagoing vessel is not a good thing.
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For some details with photo's here goes:https://maritimebulletin.net/2019/09/08/car-carrier-capsized-crew-evacuated-brunswick-usa/
" The Coast Guard said there were 23 crew members and pilot on board. All but four crew members have been safely evacuated from the ship. Apparently, weather has nothing to do with this disaster. It looks like sudden loss of stability, which may be caused by faulty ballasting, or cargo shift, or a mass of water on cargo deck – one of main dangers for ships with cargo compartments going throughout the ship both in length and width, like car carriers or ro-ro ferries. Residents of Brunswick mentioned in comment fire fighting, that if true, may explain water on cargo deck or decks. The ship is resting on bottom, portside. Maybe, or highly probably, she was intentionally led to shallows and grounded to avoid capsizing and sinking in deeper waters.
Sep 9 UPDATE: 4 crew, all Koreans, remain missing. 6 Korean, 13 Filipino crew and American pilot rescued. There was fire, according to USCG report, and it was still on after ship capsized, according to photos. Fire is or was on cargo deck.
Sep 9 evening UPDATE: Coast Guard rescuers found four South Korean crew members trapped inside a massive cargo ship, by drilling a hole through the hull to contact them. “The early indication is they are on board and OK,” Lt. Lloyd Heflin told The Associated Press. Heflin said the rescue team is communicating with the trapped sailors through the hole they drilled, but getting them out remains quite challenging. According to Korean MFA, all 4 are alive and trapped in engine room. Hopefully, they’ll be soon rescued. Congratulations, all concerned, and hail the Coast Guard!"
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I expect it will be some time before we find if the ship was first unstable and then fire resulted, or if fire caused/added to the instability first and the systems either failed or could not correct quick enough.
For those who questioned - yes, a steel ship can burn to the water line. Paint, flammables, fluids, etc all burn. Burn hot enough and steel melts, malforms, collapses etc. Fighting the fire must be very quick in response as the deck will get so hot you cannot get up to the fire to fight it. I trained with two former Naval fire fighters and was amazed at how fast you must be to get it under control. Beyond a certain point it is the fire fighting from fire boats etc that will simply bring an end to the inevitable. Just glad most have gotten off safely.
The ship is resting on the ocean floor. That is what it looks like.
Yup. Makes me wonder if they first grounded and then the ocean water flow tipped them over like an old outhouse. Inside would be the same in both cases; [bleep] everywhere.
( I see the posting has "bleeped" me out. Just use the word caca everywhere and you get the meaning) Wouldn't want to offend anyone would we? I do believe they feel stupid enough to have the whole world see the result. The fact that an American pilot aboard might indicate close passage in, or out, of dock. We shall see if pilot error is part of the picture.
Yeah, he started having some kind of problem, so he deliberately ran it aground? Did he realize it might tip over? And what kind of monster tug boats would you have to have to pull it back to open water.
I would love to get the complete story on this cluster f*ck.