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For one thing, you have a vivid imagination. In the second place, we are talking here and now, not some Hunger Games fantasy. There are all sorts of possibilities, but fighting UBC's tooth and nail is a worthwhile thing to do. Quit being a pussy.

STFU. A difference of opinion as to the efficacy of certain tactics does not make me or anyone else “anti-gun”.

The things we’re talking about here ain’t some fantasy. It’s exactly what the damned Democrats we’re talking about last night. Beto is sending letters to banks asking them to cancel credit cards if gun purchasers. One hundred and forty three corporations are lobbying Congress for tougher gun control. There are people actually trying to do all of this right now. And all you’re worried about are your mastubatory fantasies where a couple of ATF agents show up asking you about a gun and you go, “What gun?”

Masturbatory fantasies? And you call me insane? lol I'm talking about real-world, peaceful solutions. You're going off the deep end like some Democrat. Are things dire? Certainly. They have been before. Possibly we've never faced such a full-court press from the big boys. We can overcome again.

Seriously, you've got your hero Trump there to block all this stuff, right? So no worries. Trump's against UBC's since your well-dressed hero smartened him up. Isn't that your schtick?

Everything I have said is true. You're the one fantasizing and coming unglued. Settle down and quit pussying out not to mention encouraging others to do so.

Btw, to paraphrase everybody's favorite country comedian...if you think Lindsey Graham is one of the good guys, if you constantly tell people it does no good to oppose gun control at the national level, if you follow somebody around calling him "crazy" or "semi-retarded" and the like because his solidly pro-gun opinion differs from your own...you may be anti-gun.

I stand corrected, Lee. I do know two men that had the FBI show up at their doors looking for a certain model of Marlin 22 magnum rifle. One had a stainless model and they didn't want to do forensics on it but the other guy had a blued model and they did forensics on it. Another guy at work traded guns all the time and one day he got a call from the Cleveland, Ohio PD asking why a 9mm S&W pistol bought by him was found laying in a street there? He told them he had traded if off a couple of years ago. Anyway, if you buy a firearm from a FFL dealer it can be traced to you if you still posses it.

Nixon didn't take office until Jan '69. This was an LBJ atrocity to go along with his civil rights law.

Seriously, go get an MRI. You’ve gone off the deep end. You started this fight by claiming that I’m anti-gun because I disagree with you on a few issues. You’re the pussy. You’re up in arms and freak out everyday with some half assed story about what’s coming down the pike. It ain’t. And if it does, it doesn’t mean much and there are still plenty of ways to fight it. What you’re going to do is freak out, and stay home in November like a pussy, and watch these insane idiots implement something that will either see us completely undone or result in civil war. And you are directly encouraging others to do the same.

Well the universal background check proposal is basically un-enforceable---I sell you a gun--how can that be monitored?Unless you F up and do something note worthy with the gun--who's to know? Universal background sounds reasonable to a lot of people so they think--"hey whats so bad about that?"---BUT once its on the books how DO they enforce it? OH lets make registratrion of ALL firearms a law so we can enforce it---SLIPPERY SLOPE--Dont let the camels nose under the tent!!!!!!

Lol, had a LGS back in the 80’s and 90’s run by an old man who always said “I will never turn in my 4473 books.” Kept his license till he passed. Talked to his grand son a couple of months later and was told the old man had a hell of a good bonfire a couple of months before he passed. Burned every damn one of them from 30 years of being a distributor and dealer.

They don't enforce the laws they have now. If they did we wouldn't be having this thread.

Supplies!

They know where it is the day it was purchased, but someone could see it at the range next day and offer you a nice profit for it. Then it's no longer in your possession, and the Feds no longer have any idea where it is.

It happened on day one.

You may not believe this...but our Govt. lied to us about this...

The serial number is not submitted on the background check. Only buyers name, id and date of birth along with type of firearm. Been doing it for years. 4473 stays with dealer. ATF can ask for a trace on a specific gun and they go from manufacturer to distributor to dealer.

Not really.
They are merely tracing the gun by serial number to the dealer who sold it.
The fact it was bought from a dealer proves they passed the background check.

Ahhhh, you're starting to catch on.......Good For You.

I once bought a nice little .380 Sig Sauer P238, which I later gave to my son as a Christmas present. He was working on the pipeline and traveling between jobs when he spent the night in a hotel. He brought his pistol into the hotel room with an extra mag in the box, in which the pistol came. The next morning he left, but forgot the box with the loaded mag in his hotel room. He had the pistol with him in a pocket holster.

I got a call from law enforcement asking me if I knew anything about a loaded magazine being left in a hotel room (out of state.) I was in Oklahoma. I said I did not, but in the course of our conversation, I found out the mag was found inside a Sig P238 box traced back to me. I said I had given that pistol to my son for Christmas, and he was traveling on the pipeline and probably left it in his hotel room.

So, I then knew that there was a federal gun list with my name on it.

You don't think .gov knows to whom the firearm was sold?

Wrong Williams said something on Fox News that got me wondering about the current state of background checks. He said that we need to expand background checks to private sales, etc. so that "we would know who owns those guns!!" I wondered if things had changed, or if it was just the usual know-nothing BS one usually sees on TV.

I don't believe the feds keep a "true" registry, that is a list of folks and the guns they own. However, I've always tried to up my cynicism and I know I need it. I don't doubt there are "secret" databases out there. And surely there are ways to trace a gun to a buyer. You guys have reminded me of some of the technicalities that I'd forgotten. Thanks.

Bill

Feds damn sure know if you fail a BG check. I’m sure you probably get “red flagged” or at the very least, on some kinda of Gov list.