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I got 2, BLR and a ruger American, I’ll probably never trip either one Same here. I’ve got a BLR, lil brother has a Hawkeye. Neither of them are slouches and work plenty good. Maybe not any different but shoot, most of us would get by just fine with a 270/280/30-06 as well.
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Looks like the Ruger American 358's are dried up. I wish I'd have bought one of those. Never knew there were any?
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I had an old steel receiver BLR with the magazine that extended out. I used a load from Ken Water's in his Pet Loads with 3031. It turned out to be a pretty accurate rig using 200 gr Hornady spire points. I sold that rifle after I picked up a Rem custom shop KS Mod 7 in .350 mag.
I still have a Mannlicher Schoenauer model MCA carbine in .358 and it shoots well using TAC that Mule Deer worked up. Instead of using Hornady bullets I am using 225 gr Woodleigh's
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There are several Ruger Americans in 358 WIN on GB
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Got a Savage 99 and a early Ruger 77 both in 358. Great rifles and one top cartridge. But I like 35 calibers. Have 3, 35 Remington's, 1 Marlin, 2 Remington 141's, but I only have 1 in 35 Whelen anymore. This is as small as the 35 caliber herd is going to get, it could grow or breed.
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I had JES rebore a 243 Rem 700 I got here on the classifieds, duracoated it and found a really nice walnut stock( also from the classifieds) and refinished it in a darker stain, hand rubbed oil finish. It is my new favorite PA scoped rifle. Put a little 2-7 Burris on it. It’s a beauty. All told, into it for around 700 and it’s exactly the rifle I was looking for. I will disagree with others in its apparent effect on game, shooting 225 round nose bullets it seems to just lay the deer down quickly when I’ve used this chambering in the past as compared to my 308, which was no slouch either. The 308!has the edge in open country where I might be reaching out passed 300 yards, but here in Pa/Ny it’s plenty and then some on reaching out there and getting it done.
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I was looking at the current Grice flyer earlier this week and they have 20-in. Ruger American Rifle .358s on sale.
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I have one or two at the moment. Getting more, and there is a Tanger Ruger in a fullstock , she keeps whispering to me to send her to JES and let him caress her into a 358 Winchester. I'm all for it. I just have to get the go ahead from Jess. He's done a 7600 and a Savage 9.3X62 from 30-06. The 9.3 being, to me, a long action 358 Winchester. 0.08" difference...……… Be Well, Rusty
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I don't see where the 308 has much of an edge. I've studied my tables but shooting to see actual drop has done more for me than anything. Get out and shoot that 358. Maybe Winchester will load more factory 200 gr silvertips or some ballistic silvertips as an advancement. Wouldn't have to make bullets just load the ones from Nosler. Are you listening Winchester? Or are you going to suck up to the commies like Colt? Be Well, Rusty
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I don't see where the 308 has much of an edge. I've studied my tables but shooting to see actual drop has done more for me than anything. Get out and shoot that 358. Maybe Winchester will load more factory 200 gr silvertips or some ballistic silvertips as an advancement. Wouldn't have to make bullets just load the ones from Nosler. Are you listening Winchester? Or are you going to suck up to the commies like Colt? Be Well, Rusty Doesn't Winchester/Olin make "seasonal" runs of 358 ammo with the 200 grain ST? I can't see why they would make much of an effort to support what is essentially an orphan cartridge even if it was introduced by Winchester. It looks like Hornady is currently making the largest number of different factory loads for low volume cartridges, so maybe you would have more success contacting them rather than Winchester/Olin.
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I have an excellent condition Savage 99 ser A Brush Gun for sale in the classifieds...
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Neither Win nor Rem has been able to get the average American over his aversion, and terror, regarding any over-.30 cartridge. The few who do try something get a .338 win mag and grimace and close their eyes tight shut when firing it. They never try the effective but mild mannered .358 Win or .338 Fed. Just the size of a .35 Whelen ctg makes them flinch.
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There are, or were, lots of people hunting medium game with 32 WS, 8x57, and 35 REM in the northeast.
I like the 338 FED with the 200 grain AB and 210 grain Partition, but haven't shot any game with it yet.
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I bought a SS Ruger Hawkeye or 77 in .358, I forget it's been a while. I do remember it having light primer strike issues with factory Win. Silver tips. I don't know if it's the rifle or the ammo as I haven't had it out in years.
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I haven't seen a "seasonal run" of 358 Winchester in some time. I think I know where there is another silver box of the 200 gr silvertips. That will bring my count to quite a few boxes of factory ammo for my rifles. Might be a good idea to have 100 rounds per rifle. I have reloads as well. Can anyone find silvertips to reload? I'm not sure if the premium Nosler "silver ballistic tip" is available in 200 gr .358. I have a number of Remington SPs that look like a protected tip and some 35 Remington style round nose that look like bombs. They stop deer at close range like a bomb. I have used them when in brush and the protected tips in open hunting. It works for me. My hunting spot requires a dead deer to not cross property lines. The 358 Winchester and the 350 Rem mag assures that. Be Well, Rusty.
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I like 35 cal. I looked at the 358 and really liked what I saw until I saw a Sauer & Sohn 98 in 9 X 57 that I liked the rifle even better than anything the 358 was chambered in.. Now there's three 9 X 57's in the toy box, one a 9 X 57R in a nice Jaeger drilling. The 9 X 57 is just a little more 358....I'd happily take either over the 308 in the right rifle.
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Sharps4590 please put up a photograph of the drilling on this thread. Be Well, Rusty.
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I have one or two at the moment. Getting more, and there is a Tanger Ruger in a fullstock , she keeps whispering to me to send her to JES and let him caress her into a 358 Winchester. I'm all for it. I just have to get the go ahead from Jess. He's done a 7600 and a Savage 9.3X62 from 30-06. The 9.3 being, to me, a long action 358 Winchester. 0.08" difference...……… Be Well, Rusty "Getting more, and there is a Tanger Ruger in a fullstock , she keeps whispering to me to send her to JES and let him caress her into a 358 Winchester. I'm all for it. I just have to get the go ahead from Jess." If that full stock tanger is an RSI and not someone's custom, I'm thinking the barrel may be too skinny for a rebore to .358 Win. I have three tanger RSI's in .308 and the barrels on mine and damn sure too skinny at the muzzle. One of my RSI's had a stock that is "thicker" than the other two with more wood in the forearm by about a quarter inch or so,=. I've thought about taking one of the two tangers I have in .358 Win. and seeing if it's feasible to drop it into the full stock and trim the barrel to match. Salvage the rear sight from the .308 barrel but may not be able to do it with the front sight. Not so funny story on a full stock Ruger (RSI) in .358 Win. At the NRA convention back IIRC 1982/3 I asked the Ruger rep if they would consider the RSI in .358 Win.The dude reacted as if I'd asked his mother to do a show with a donkey. There were a few four letter words exchanged on both sides. A simple no or more realistic, "I doubt it." would have been sufficient. FWIW, the thicker RSI never go converted to .358 because my wife decided she liked that one better than the two thinner ones. Paul B.
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