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Originally Posted by fburgtx
Maybe I missed any mention of Country music on TV (Porter Wagoner’s show, Wilburn Bros, Hee Haw, Glen Campbell), or movies (Urban Cowboy, Smoky and the Bandit, Every Which Way But Loose, Bronco Billy, Tender Mercies)....

Eddie Rabbit and Johnny Lee brought in more “crossover appeal” than Emmylou ever did, but weren’t as “cool”...



Yep.....you are still so bent out of shape on black people and Bob Dillon to pull your head up out of your ash to see anything else


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Originally Posted by fburgtx
Maybe I missed any mention of Country music on TV (Porter Wagoner’s show, Wilburn Bros, Hee Haw, Glen Campbell), or movies (Urban Cowboy, Smoky and the Bandit, Every Which Way But Loose, Bronco Billy, Tender Mercies)....

Eddie Rabbit and Johnny Lee brought in more “crossover appeal” than Emmylou ever did, but weren’t as “cool”...



Yep.....you are still so bent out of shape on black people and Bob Dillon to pull your head up out of your ash to see anything else
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I have come to the following conclusion that Burns is trying to pass country music off as something other than an invention of Conservative minded White folks.

In the first few segments, he lets us know that if it weren't for Blacks, there would be no country music. In the past couple of segments, he's given the credit to the Nelson-Cash-Dylan, liberal, drug using crowd. Given the politics at PBS, it's not surprising.



Jesus H. Christ. You really don't get out much, do you?


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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Haven't had a chance to watch any of it.

Did they play Wild Horses by the Stones?

Any mention of the band "Old and in the Way"? Or was that too "bluegrass" and not enough country.

Dang them protestors all to heck anyway, even the famous musician kind. How dare they have an idea that what was going on just might be wrong?

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didn't play it, but mentioned it.


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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I have come to the following conclusion that Burns is trying to pass country music off as something other than an invention of Conservative minded White folks.

In the first few segments, he lets us know that if it weren't for Blacks, there would be no country music. In the past couple of segments, he's given the credit to the Nelson-Cash-Dylan, liberal, drug using crowd. Given the politics at PBS, it's not surprising.



Jesus H. Christ. You really don't get out much, do you?



I'm pretty sure the Joos are behind it all. First 30-40 seconds says it all



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Originally Posted by Sycamore
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Haven't had a chance to watch any of it.

Did they play Wild Horses by the Stones?

Any mention of the band "Old and in the Way"? Or was that too "bluegrass" and not enough country.

Dang them protestors all to heck anyway, even the famous musician kind. How dare they have an idea that what was going on just might be wrong?

Geno


didn't play it, but mentioned it.


It'll be replayed someday, I'll try to watch for it and record it.

PBS has this wonderful way of using stuff like that to raise money. If I record it I can FF through all the pleas for money.

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In keeping in the vein of the thread.



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Perfect Bob,

I think they even had a coupla black fellas in that band.

Funny little one on the drums........................."You got the money you owe us [bleep]".

And you sir, seem to have led an interesting life.

Cannon shoots are all sorts of fun, eh? I've been to one and would go to another if I get the chance. Before they ban them semi-automatic high caliber black powder mortars.

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Originally Posted by tedthorn
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Maybe I missed any mention of Country music on TV (Porter Wagoner’s show, Wilburn Bros, Hee Haw, Glen Campbell), or movies (Urban Cowboy, Smoky and the Bandit, Every Which Way But Loose, Bronco Billy, Tender Mercies)....

Eddie Rabbit and Johnny Lee brought in more “crossover appeal” than Emmylou ever did, but weren’t as “cool”...



Yep.....you are still so bent out of shape on black people and Bob Dillon to pull your head up out of your ash to see anything else



At least I can spell...............it's Dylan, not Dillion


We're talking about Bob the singer, not Matt the marshal.

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I think Matt the Marshall was probably a better singer!

Best country singer ever=George Jones

Next=Merle Haggard

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Originally Posted by JamesJr
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Originally Posted by fburgtx
Maybe I missed any mention of Country music on TV (Porter Wagoner’s show, Wilburn Bros, Hee Haw, Glen Campbell), or movies (Urban Cowboy, Smoky and the Bandit, Every Which Way But Loose, Bronco Billy, Tender Mercies)....

Eddie Rabbit and Johnny Lee brought in more “crossover appeal” than Emmylou ever did, but weren’t as “cool”...



Yep.....you are still so bent out of shape on black people and Bob Dillon to pull your head up out of your ash to see anything else



At least I can spell...............it's Dylan, not Dillion


We're talking about Bob the singer, not Matt the marshal.



Funny thig you see Alexa doesn't seem to care either.

If you think I take the time to type any this crap out you are nuts.


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I can't get opening horns from Ring of Fire out of my head.

Bum padumpa duhda dummmm
Bum padumpa duhda duuuu

F'in Ken Burns.


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Im watching it dvr'ed..at bob wills ..good stuff so far ...lot more black fplk in country music than charle pride ..lol !


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Originally Posted by jackmountain
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Anybody watching?? Have you noticed EVERY PBS special has to make a point of overemphasizing race, anymore?? For chrissakes......


The wright museum in Kitty hawk reopened after being renovated. Half the displays are tributes yo minority and women aviators. Nothing to do with the wright brothers.
Everything has to include the importance of the the African American contribution these days.



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People all over Montana complain about crack whores in Billings. I talked to Billings cops. There is no real crack whore problem there. More than 50% of budget is spent on native Americans that have been drinking.

What most of Montana is pi$$ed off about Billings is that it is just like Seattle, a hive of liberals with the latest political correctness.


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There's a reason some of those commies are featured. It's because they deserve to be, they are/were that great. Personally I forgive the really great ones for their politics because I just feel I have to or I can't enjoy their work. Classic stuff.

BTW their was a quick shot of Linda Ronstadt in a picture with Emmy Lou. Linda is sorta marginal country, definitely cross-over, but I love both of their music. I haven't quite forgiven Linda for fooling around with that Moonbeam governor. On the other hand Gavin Newsome makes him look...well, not quite so bad. The

Dolly, on the other hand, has enough brains and class to stay out of politics.

All in all it's been pretty good and quite enjoyable. I'm afraid things head downhill tonight. "Some call it country. I call it bad rock and roll."...Geezinslaw Brothers

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Fburgtx: Just keeps getting better and better and more interesting every night.
It's VERY rare that I ever commend a liberal (it's seldom ever warranted to begin with!), but in this instance I must say "SUPERB job" there Ken Burns.
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I've been enjoying the heck out of it. Wife is dragging me off to something tonight and I might miss the finale. You guys sure see everything through a political filter. Me I just enjoy the music who ever sings it. Learning a lot of things too. You want to be surprised, read Kris Kristofferson's bio. Golden Gloves boxer, Phi Beta Kappa, Rhodes Scholar, Airborne Ranger helicopter pilot, Captain, turned down a teaching assignment at West Point... And all this time I thought he just wrote a few songs and did a movie or two.


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Originally Posted by toltecgriz


Dolly, on the other hand, has enough brains and class to stay out of politics.



My guess is...
Dolly is bi and a closet lib.
Pat Benatar is a closet conservative.

I have been guessing things for a long time.
The most important thing to guess is the probability you are right.




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Originally Posted by Valsdad
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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Haven't had a chance to watch any of it.

Did they play Wild Horses by the Stones?

Any mention of the band "Old and in the Way"? Or was that too "bluegrass" and not enough country.

Dang them protestors all to heck anyway, even the famous musician kind. How dare they have an idea that what was going on just might be wrong?

Geno


didn't play it, but mentioned it.


It'll be replayed someday, I'll try to watch for it and record it.

PBS has this wonderful way of using stuff like that to raise money. If I record it I can FF through all the pleas for money.

Geno



I didn't see any fundraising, just the story sans commercials.

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Vince Gill had a good line last night about change and how boring country music would be if it never changed. Lot of old fuds here with calcified brains that can't handle anything new.

You can't tolerate a liberal musician but drunks, drugies, ex-cons, and adulterers are OK. Yeah, bring back those old time values

They spent way too much time on George Jones and Tammy Wynette; I never cared for most of their music.

There are a lot of young country musicians turning out some very good music today.


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Originally Posted by tedthorn
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Originally Posted by tedthorn
Originally Posted by fburgtx
Maybe I missed any mention of Country music on TV (Porter Wagoner’s show, Wilburn Bros, Hee Haw, Glen Campbell), or movies (Urban Cowboy, Smoky and the Bandit, Every Which Way But Loose, Bronco Billy, Tender Mercies)....

Eddie Rabbit and Johnny Lee brought in more “crossover appeal” than Emmylou ever did, but weren’t as “cool”...



Yep.....you are still so bent out of shape on black people and Bob Dillon to pull your head up out of your ash to see anything else



At least I can spell...............it's Dylan, not Dillion


We're talking about Bob the singer, not Matt the marshal.



Funny thig you see Alexa doesn't seem to care either.

If you think I take the time to type any this crap out you are nuts.


Well, maybe you can take enough time to see that I never said a gawd-damned thing about “Dillon” (your spelling) in any of MY posts. As for being out of shape on “black people”, I’m all willing to give credit where it is due. My issue is with Burns trying to make a bigger deal out of race and politics in country music than it is, rather than concentrating on the actual history.

Wanna see what constitutes real racism?? I’ve seen Elvis Costello show up MULTIPLE times in this documentary to comment on country music (as if he knows a damned thing about it). Google his thoughts/feelings on Ray Charles. THAT is what real racism sounds like...

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