Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Beware: My Model 700 is Discharging

Your gunsmith, ain’t one. You need a new/real gunsmith.

PS. Cold chamber when just walking and not preparing to shoot.

Not long after I came onto the campfire in 2008 I posted a note about a Model 700 owned by a friend/neighbor and his experience with the AD problem referenced in this thread. I had verified the problem by replicating the owner's experiences and said here that I was going to try to fix the rifle... A couple of rather prominent Campfire veterans immediately jumped on me, said I was wrong and was making stuff up and even surmised that I was an attorney trying to make another case against Remington. One of them also said that the trigger mechanism had to have been filthy - gunked up etc. - even though I had noted that it all was extremely clean. My friend was a first-class neatnik. One of those Campfire misfits quietly disappeared a while later and the other is still hanging around (has a huge post count) although I have not seen much from him recently.

As I was starting to work on the trigger mechanism, Mickey Coleman sent me a PM, told me I was correct, and offered to send me a new replacement trigger (for free) that would work properly - simply asked that I send the Rem trigger parts to him for use in his work. Mickey sent the trigger, I installed and adjusted it and sent Mickey the Rem components. The 700 worked great - no AD whatsoever despite all sorts of efforts - and all was good. My friend thereafter hunted and shot antelope, Dall sheep, caribou and some other game without any repetition of the AD problem.

At the very next SW Campfire event out here, two different M 700s did exactly the same AD - both in the hands of very experienced shooters. I posted that note on the Campfire. Also did some more simple home shop testing after that weekend and came up with one clear caution - once a round is run into the chamber and the safety then engaged, any touching of the trigger (even the most minor touch) can create a precarious condition wherein the firing pin will fall on the cartridge when the safety is simply released. Replicated many times.

That REM 700 situation taught me two lessons: First, that a major firearms manufacturer would deny, deny, deny a potentially serious fault with its product to extreme ends rather than admit fault and fix the mess - and - that the Campfire housed both extremes of folks and all sorts in between - from the nasty non-thinkers who live to tear down others to the genuinely fabulous fellows like Mickey Coleman. I got to know Mickey through his knowledge, generosity and kindness - and miss him a bunch. The other end of the spectrum - not so much.

For those that say muzzle control goes a long way, you are correct in regards to where you want the bullet to go.

However, this does NOT address the FACT that Remington installed a very dangerous, faulty trigger in their rifles.

Keeping a dangerous triggered rifle pointed in a safe direction may indeed ensure the bullet does not hit anyone.

HOWEVER, it does NOT keep it from having an accidental discharge!!!

Well said.

Installed my 5th this afternoon, great triggers!!

not too uncommon on 700 s...keep the trigger clean and dry...2 lbs is too light for my taste and comfort...on a big game rifle
Varmint rifles are another matter I rarely use a safety or have a loaded round unless something is in the sights..

+1

7 pages on decades old news...........

That many still deny was ever news to start with.

I don't gamble, but thanks for the unsolicited advice.
Touched the Rem nerve did I?

Plus his continued use of "powder out of a sack". He's lawyer trained to give canned responses and go roundy round until you give up. I never gave up. I've cleaned and adjusted in the neighborhood of thirty Walker, series one and two XMP triggers. Bilk told me I couldn't adjust the XMP and still have the safety work. I have seven rifles that have the XMP triggers, (which adjust exactly like the Walker) all have been adjusted and the safety still works on each and every one.

What gets the Walker trigger is ignorance, dirt and WD40. If your Walker trigger is properly maintained and if you follow the 10 Commandments of Firearm Safety the Walker trigger is flawless.

Believe me or don't.

RJ

Jard Single Set Trigger.

Best of both worlds! Heavy enough unset to be safe even when wearing gloves, and that delightful set trigger for careful, deliberate long range shots.

Ed

Nope, you waved the "Look at me! I am clueless in math!" flag.

I had a 1980 model year LA... it had issues discharging on its own...Remington Replaced the trigger on a receall and it did it again...I replaced it with a Timney.. that stopped it

I was with a friend elk hunting, and it was an ADL... when we got back to the vehicles one afternoon to head home.. Steve was unleading it and it went off....send a 180 grain Corlokt, right thru both fenders of a guys brand new Chevy Dually 4 WD, with a special paint job to match his new 5th wheel....he wasn't pleased... I think because their were two of us and one of him, it didn't escalate....

Funny, all 14 Raptors ever made blew up in someone's face and nearly killed someone, yet they get a pass because there were only 14 ever made...

Had you adjusted your trigger?

I had 2 AD's with a Remington 700, a 1962 model. Trigger/safety assy. was clean and never adjusted by me. I installed a Timney, still waiting for the check for the replacement from Remington.

It doesn't get any easier

Still laughing ...

Remington reimburse you guys for all those aftermarket trigger purchases????


LOL!!!

Old skool mod 70 triggers rule.......