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None of the above.

Those "money changers" have turned it into a business. Check the scripture to see how the Lord handled those types...

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This is correct. It is the faithul that comprise the Church universal. I already knew that.

The version of this event as recorded in the gospels I believe is a seriously abbreviated version of a much bigger event. This is what I believe sealed the deal with the Jewish religious hierarchy that Jesus had to be killed. He came in a few days earlier to a heroes welcome. I believe it may have set off a wholesale insurrection that required the Roman army to violently put it down. History is chock full of examples of murder of millions in the name of God. The church today isn't much different. In a lot of countries there is still religious totalitarianism supported by the government as a means to control the population. They would be killing people in this country today except for the wisdom of our founding fathers. I am the only one at the church I attend that is glad the supreme court mostly keeps religion out of public institutions. I take the position of Gandhi, I like Jesus, It's the Christians I don't like.

Sorta like this communion thing. Is it real or not? Or somewhere in between? Minor theological difference?

It’s understandable why SO MANY feel just like you do in those regards.

Not to catholics, as you well know. Transubstantiation, claims of the Vicar of Christ, and Indulgences have long been bridges too far for Protestants, even before there were Protestants. Any bible believing but not pope believing person could not swallow those three items accepting death first.

People disagree about certain things in the Bible, understandably so, (such as the stories of Noah or Jonah). Demanding that they believe in things that are not pertinent to one’s salvation only pushes people further away. Believing in the stories of Noah and Jonah are NOT essential to one’s salvation, but believing in the The Gospel is...!
Regarding the Catholic doctrine of substantiation...Protestants don’t buy that any more than they buy the Catholic doctrine of praying to Mary.

You believe that, why? As far as I know, I've never read any history that happened. Rome just kept killing Christians with impunity until 313. Nero made candles out of a lot of them. Rome did go in and destroy Jerusalem 70 years later, long after Jesus' death and resurrection, scattering the Jews who survived to hither and yon.

There is nothing in the Constitution that makes it a thing to keep religion out of public institutions. The only thing that 1A does is make it so the government cannot create a religion, similar to what England did in creating the Church of England.

I think the issue for many is the idea that you must believe that the Bible(not sure which one)must be believed in its entirety as the inerrant word of God if you want to be a Christian. To many Christians, there isn't any beliefs that not pertinent.

Catholicism also says that unless one is under the pope, they cannot be saved, because the pope, not Jesus or God, saves and forgives sins. And the priest has to hear a person's confession of sin. It's kind of a deal breaker for some.

It does seem to function in that way,to some degree anyway.I suppose it's that government can't really support one religion over another or else it could be claimed they are creating a religion, so they either have to allow all or none. I think it was a very wise thing to put in, no sense in having government involved in religion, that game has been played enough times.

Public institutions can make rules regarding displays of religious material but it has to be all religious material, not just Christian, although they sometimes allow in things like islamic items, likely fearing what might happen if they made it an issue.

Succession - How else would you accurately propagate the word, and authority given the apostles, through the ages? Seems common sense to me. Not everything is in the bible, God gave us the ability to work a few things out for ourselves.

There is more to it than that one verse. I'm not a bible scholar by any means, not even close. Went through this stuff to my satisfaction years ago and much has leaked out my ears while I was asleep. So here's the official teaching:

Cateshism of the Catholic Church

881 The Lord made Simon alone, whom he named Peter, the "rock" of his Church. He gave him the keys of his Church and instituted him shepherd of the whole flock.400 "The office of binding and loosing which was given to Peter was also assigned to the college of apostles united to its head."401 This pastoral office of Peter and the other apostles belongs to the Church's very foundation and is continued by the bishops under the primacy of the Pope.

400 Cf. Mt 16:18-19; Jn 21:15-17.
401 LG 22 § 2. (Lumen Gentium which you can find Here.)

You've nevr been told that by your boss?

Not ‘right after’ he put me in charge of the entire operation...!

As I was taught temple sacrifices had to be of pure animals. To insure purity the temple would sacrifice only animals from approved sellers. And these sellers could accept only temple money so you had to change Roman coin for temple. Kickback city, all in the name of God. Should piss anyone off.

All of that is factually wrong. Will cite the catechism, the official teaching, if you like.

That’s likely unfortunate. The faith of Christianity is tethered to the event of the Resurrection rather than to the authority and inspiration or infallibility or inerrancy of the Bible. The Bible did not create Christianity. Christianity created the Bible. The Bible did not birth Jesus’ Church. Jesus’ Church birthed the Bible. The Christian faith is anchored to the event (the Resurrection) that sparked the movement (the Church) that brought us the Bible. Christianity began on the very first Easter morning with an empty tomb...! The Bible...as we know it...didn’t even exist until the 4th century AD.

The same people who don't believe in Apostolic Succession when asked how The Word should have been spread instead will glibly answer "through the Bible" when in fact the Bible did not exist until AFTER Apostolic Succession had been in place for 200+ years and those apostolic successors put it together. IT NOT FOR APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION, THERE WOULD BE NO BIBLE.


Re: Mary's intercession - I guarantee you, the same people who question asking for the Virgin Mary's intercession, have no problem asking any random person to pray for them.