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I'm in the market for a angle compensating range finder, ease of use ,compact size and durability are essential,realistically will most likely be used 0-300 yards mostly but it would be nice to have 1000 yard capability,what say you with real life experiences ?
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For me its a no brainer, Vortex has life time warranty's
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A lifetime warranty on optics is important to me. So is a rangefinder that can actually range fuzzy critters.
I have a Vortex Ranger 1500 and Sig Kilo 2000. Neither one reliably ranges critters beyond 300 yds. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. The Kilo does much better on reflective targets than the Ranger. The Ranger does better in mist, light snow or low flying clouds. Neither one is worth a crap at ranging fuzzy brown antelope on gently sloping, fuzzy brown prairie hillsides. There is not always a reflective target nearby to range.
Based on my observation and talking to others, the Leica's seem to be the best at picking up real world critters. But their customer/warranty service has been historically poor.
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Buy quality and you won't need to worry about the warranty, the Leica Rangemaster CRF 2400-R is the way to go: The new CRF 2400-R offers a newly designed LED display for even better readability of scanned distances. The new LED display adjusts itself automatically to the ambient light to aid precise readability. Another remarkable feature is the extremely fast scan mode, which takes measurements every 0.5 seconds. Up to a measuring distance of 200 yards (182 meters), the unit displays the results in decimal figures (to 0.1y), enabling even more precise distance measurement for archers. The CRF 2400-R determines the equivalent horizontal range (EHR) up to a distance of 1,200 yards (1,097 meters) when required. With this feature, the unit provides the practical anglecompensated distance, which is essential for an accurate long-distance shot. Thanks to its compact design it fits easily into any pocket – weighing just 6.5 ounces and is waterproof to 1m. The outstanding optics with a 7x magnification ensure the best image brightness and a wide field of view.
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The only way I would buy Leica is from you Doug--at least you guys have the chutzpah to get Leica's attention...........
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The only way I would buy Leica is from you Doug--at least you guys have the chutzpah to get Leica's attention........... Always our pleasure to assist
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I love my Leica and my experience with them was fantastic. The Pip chewed a rubber eyepiece liner. Sent it back expecting to pay for a repair. Instead got a new upgraded unit for free. CameralandNY is always my first choice.
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I bought the Leica CRF-2400R from Cameraland last weekend. I look forward to getting my hands on it.
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I have a Leica 2000B that has been great so far.
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Leica CRF2400R is pretty nice so far. My previous 900 scan of 15 years is still working.
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I would really like one of them new Leica 2400s but my old 2004 (?) model Leica Rangemaster 1200 is still kicking out the yardages. The rubber coating is starting to deteriorate but other than that I have had no issues. I would be hard pressed to not replace it with a Leica. My old 1200 has had a lot of use. I take the battery out after the season and toss it and put in a new one every year. It was a lot for me to pay back then for one piece of equipment but glad I did.
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I'm in the market for a angle compensating range finder, ease of use ,compact size and durability are essential,realistically will most likely be used 0-300 yards mostly but it would be nice to have 1000 yard capability,what say you with real life experiences ? I use a Bushnell VLRII that is 10 years old. It will easily range criters at 300 yards, but with the 6x magnification it is hard to hold steady unsupported for longer distances. I can range reflective objects to 800 yards (which I have done). This was < $200 new. I bought it for archery hunting and it does angle adjustment. I mostly use it for setting targets, setting decoys, picking shooting lanes, etc. I've never ranged antelope at 500 yards, so I don't know if it can do it. I would imagine that newer rangefinders in the ~$200 price range are even better.
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My Leica has to be around 10-12 years old. I'd go with them again, most likely.
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Leica what I have and it’s better than all my friends other brands
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What's the difference between the Lecia 2000-B and Lecia 2400-R ?
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Same here, an older Leica 1200 just plain works, and continues to do so.
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What's the difference between the Lecia 2000-B and Lecia 2400-R ? Alot...... I've had the 1200, 1600, 2000, and finally the 2700 as soon as they came out. I bought the 2400 for a 2nd unit to carry/keep in my pack when hunting, and keep the 2700 in the truck. If the 2400 would have come out first, I would own two of those, as I don't, as of now, use the features of the 2700.
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I’ve had Leica 800, 2000 and now the 2400-R. I had a chance to compare the Vortex and Leica 2400 side by side. Significant weight and optical clarity difference.
I would go with the Leica without a doubt.
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[quote=RickcNY]What's the difference between the Lecia 2000-B and Lecia 2400-R
What's the difference between the two ?
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[quote=RickcNY]What's the difference between the Lecia 2000-B and Lecia 2400-R
What's the difference between the two ? Correct
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So what features are on the Leica 2700 that aren't on the 2400 or 2000 ?
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2800: https://www.eurooptic.com/Leica-Rangemaster-CRF-2800COM-Laser-Rangefinder-40506.aspx2700b: https://www.eurooptic.com/Leica-Rangemaster-CRF-2700-B-40545.aspx2400: https://www.eurooptic.com/Leica-CRF-2400-R-Rangemaster-Compact-Laser-Rangefinder-40546.aspxIn a nutshell, the 2400 will suit your purposes and then some. The 2700 has a sd card for ballistics, and a hair smaller beam divergence. The new 2800 is bluetooth compatible. I kept buying the new models because I was outshooting their capabilities. After finding the 1600 wouldn't range as far as I needed, I bought a Terrapin. When Leica came out with the 2000, I bought one, because I wanted to sell the Terrapin due to their schitty CS if something went wrong. I bought a Sig in that time frame to compare as well, but kept the Leica, sold the Sig. The 2000 still sucked for my needs, so I kept the Terrapin. When Leica came out with the 2700, I bought one right away, and was immediately impressed enough that I sold the Terrapin. The extra features didn't matter to me, I just wanted a rangefinder that worked, & it does. Like I said earlier, I then bought the 2400 to keep in my pack, and leave the 2700 in the truck. I could live with two 2400's if they would have come out first, they're that close.
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Thank you aalf for answering my question in a clear and precise manner ,have a good one !!!
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Does the Leica 2400R display the angle of inclination, or just equivalent horizontal distance?
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[quote=RedRabbit]Does the Leica 2400R display the angle of inclination, or just equivalent horizontal distance?[/quote anybody?
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I had a Leica for quite a while and it was great. I also had a pair of meopta binoculars and sold both to purchase some sig range finding binos and so far they are great.
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Leica Rangemaster CRF 2400-R
Leica is excited to announce the Rangemaster CRF 2400-R - our most powerful simple angle compensation compact rangefinder ever - an amazing 2,400 yards. That's 50% farther than its predecessor!
The new CRF 2400-R offers a newly designed LED display for even better readability of scanned distances. The new LED display adjusts itself automatically to the ambient light to aid precise readability. Another remarkable feature is the extremely fast scan mode, which takes measurements every 0.5 seconds. Up to a measuring distance of 200 yards (182 meters), the unit displays the results in decimal figures (to 0.1y), enabling even more precise distance measurement for archers. The CRF 2400-R determines the equivalent horizontal range (EHR) up to a distance of 1,200 yards (1,097 meters) when required. With this feature, the unit provides the practical angle-compensated distance, which is essential for an accurate long-distance shot. Thanks to its compact design it fits easily into any pocket – weighing just 6.5 ounces and is waterproof to 1m. The outstanding optics with a 7x magnification ensure the best image brightness and a wide field of view. The essentials:
Ideal entry-level model with an output of linear, horizontal range (EHR) of 10 m to 1,100 m / 1,200 yds Distance determination of up to 2,200 m / 2,400 yds Excellent readability of LED display with automatic brightness control Brilliant, clear image, crisp details even at dusk 7 x 24 mm precision optics with integrated diopter compensation Weighs only 6.5 ounces and is extremely compact Intuitive, easy operation with meter-yard switching and angle display Water and dirt repellent AquaDura® coating
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I am too cheap to put out the money for a Leica and so went with a Sig 2000 a few years ago. It has been perfect for me, ranging animals to over 700. The only thing that I do not like about it, is the target circle is a bit large. I have not used one of their new ones.
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The 2000 still sucked for my needs, so I kept the Terrapin.
What sucks about the 2000? I bought one on your recommendation, you s.o.b.
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The 2000 still sucked for my needs, so I kept the Terrapin. What sucks about the 2000? I bought one on your recommendation, you s.o.b. Because it couldn't range reliably to or past 1400.......
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Ha, no worries. I assumed it was because you were pushing it to the limit. Works great for me and I'm happy.
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