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Which bullet version do you call regular?
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Which bullet version do you call regular? These are the orange box hunting versions.
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[quote=aalf] 130 VLD again, quartering away, 350 yards, 6.5-284 at 3150:
Nice shootin aalf!
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They shatter on impact. Berger even says so (although they tell you they go in 5" first, but I have NEVER seen done) Some folks seem to think the bullet shattering like a ball of glass is good. I don't.
If you do you'll love them. What cartridge and bullet weight have you personally tested Berger’s in? Seems your results are definitely not what I have personally seen in a 243,6-06, 6.5SAUM, 270WSM, 30-378wby, 30-06, 300win, 300WBY, 300RUM, 7RUM, 7Rem Mag.
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They shatter on impact. Berger even says so (although they tell you they go in 5" first, but I have NEVER seen done) Some folks seem to think the bullet shattering like a ball of glass is good. I don't.
If you do you'll love them. Ummm, no.
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Been shooting the 115gr Berger out of my 25-06 for years, only had one exit and that was a 40 yard shot. When I do my part I've never had a whitetail go more than 40 yards, internal damage is impressive! Agree with the others that if you like an exit wound these are not what you should be shooting. I"ve never not had an exit.
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Here is my Yakutia Snow Sheep from last year. shot with a 140gr Berger Classic Hunter. The second photo is the entry side, the third is the exit side, and the photo in the next post is of the on side lung. Muzzle speed was 2,985 fps and shooting distance 280 yds.
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Alvaro
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Alvaro,
Beautiful Ram in beautiful country. Truly bucket list stuff for me.
I’ve used the regular hunting VLDs in both 6.5 and .308 on several deer and pigs from spitting distance to a couple hundred yards. Some exited, some didn’t. All killed quickly.
I’ve used the 140gr Elite Hunter in one animal, a Caribou at about 200 yards. Double lung shot. Killed it quickly and exited, but made quite the mess of both side of the rib cage.
Have used the 185gr classic hunter from a .308 on a couple of pigs between 400 and 500 yards. Killed quickly and exited. In fact, on one shot I got TWO pigs at about 465 yards IIRC. Bullet exited big pig, made two entrances on small pig and killed him too.
Been able to find good accuracy out of all of them.
John
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Here is my Yakutia Snow Sheep from last year. shot with a 140gr Berger Classic Hunter. The second photo is the entry side, the third is the exit side, and the photo in the next post is of the on side lung. Muzzle speed was 2,985 fps and shooting distance 280 yds. That is awesome! A sheep hunt like that is only a dream for me. Very cool!
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I have used Bergers and they worked fine. I have changed to Barnes TTSX’s in all of my rifles except for one as the TTSX always exits and causes less bloodshot meat. OP, the 100 gr TTSX at 3100+ from a 22” barrel in my .260 is one of my favorite deer and pig bullets. It has produced DRT out to 250 yards, which is the longest shot with it to date. The closest was on a 150 pound pig at 30 yards and the 100 TTSX produced a through and through wound passing through the skull, which is a significant test for a bullet. It will go faster, but that was a good accuracy node, which your 6.5 CM should be able to achieve. I worked up the load for kids, but after trying it, I use it often because of the reliable terminal results. Give them a try. H414 or H4350, whatever is findable. In fairness to szihn, another hunter posted similar Berger failure today in another thread on another forum. I was in Africa recently doing a management hunt for a wildlife conservancy. There was a hunter from Denver there with a new Christensen .300 WM. He brought 185 grain Berger Classic Hunter loads. The first day he shot a mature waterbuck. The bullet did not penetrate the shoulder socket and had to be shot 2 more times to bring it to the end of its suffering. The next day they shot a gemsbok and it ran off with a crater in its shoulder. Never recovered. I guess they work well on whitetail, mule deer and antelope, but they did not work on 500 pound animals in Africa. https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/7645118/300-wm
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Snuck up on a doe at 40 yards with a 6x47 lapua , shot with 105 Berger hunting bullet. Hit in the sweet spot , right behind the shoulder. Most of the front shoulders destroyed, very dead deer but lots of meat loss. Last Berger I used to kill an animal I was going to eat. My experience, others may vary.
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