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*NEW*
Rings (larger measurement included with each is the distance to ocular center from top of P-rail)
1" PICATINNY RINGS: Seekins Precision 1” Low 0.76 or .26” ARC M10 1" Low 0.79" or 0.29" Trijicon TR100/TR103 1" Std 0.82" Leupold QRW 1” Super Low .55 or .05” (Weaver style) Leupold QRW 1” Low .65 or .15” (Weaver style)
30mm PICATINNY RINGS: Ken Farrell 30mm Low Rings 0.735” APA 30mm Low 0.750" Leupold QRW 30mm Low .77” or .18” (Weaver-will fit picatinny) ARC M10 30mm Low 0.79" or 0.29" Badger Ordinance 30mm Std 0.82 or .23” (will fit Weaver) TPS Ultra Low 30mm TSR/TSRW/HRT 0.82” or .23” Seekins Precision 30mm Low 0.82 or .23” Warne Maxima QD 30mm Low 0.83 or .25” (Weaver style) Leupold Mark 4 Rings 30mm Med 0.84 or .25” LaRue 0.85 or .26” Nightforce Ultralight 30mm Low 0.885 or .295 Trijicon TR104/TR107 30mm Std 0.95"
Bases for Rem. 700 SA: Warne M673SA; 0MOA; Rem 700 SA R= .40; F=.29"; (Steel) Warne M673-20SA; 20MOA; Rem 700 SA R= .40"; F=.25"; (Steel) Badger Ordinance; 0MOA Rem 700 SA; R= .41"; F= .31"; (Steel) GG&G; 0MOA; Rem 700 SA; R= .42"; F= .32 (only available in steel 0MOA) McCann Industries; 0MOA; Rem 700 SA; F= .44; F= .29” (only available in steel 20MOA) *obsolete Seekins; 0MOA; Rem 700 SA; R = .45”; F= .33”; (Aluminum) Seekins; 20MOA; Rem 700 SA; R = .45”; F= .31”; (Aluminum) Seekins; 30MOA; Rem 700 SA; R = .45”; F= .29”; (Aluminum) Badger Ordinance 0MOA; Rem 700 SA; R= .41; F= .31"; Steel LaRue; 0MOA; Rem 700 SA; R= .43" Rear (Aluminum) LaRue; 20MOA; Rem 700 SA; R= .46" Rear (Aluminum)
Useful Info: 15 millimeters = 0.590551181 inches
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Thank you for all the help.
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Excellent Data. I've been using Seekins 30mm lows and was hoping there was something available even lower. Now I know where to look. Thanks!
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Precision Armament Tennalum; 20MOA; 700 SA 20MOA; R = 0.52”; F = 0.375”.
It’s unfortunate this beautifully made rail is so high. It incorporates an integral recoil lug, but it’s really high.
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Ken Farrell 30mm Low
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Burris XTR 2 piece base dimensions courtesy of SKane.
Rear =.292” Front =.174”
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Nightforce Ultralight One Piece Mount 30mm 20 MOA 700 SA Front: 0.59” Rear: 0.73”
***Dimensions courtesy of 270jrk
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This is for the low nightforce model. Very nice setup, strong, light, simple
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Kingston - are those Ken Farrells on the scale aluminum or steel? What do you think of them? Thanks for the great thread.
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Aluminum. Ken Farrel rings are absolutely quality. Their design sought to minimize height, weight, and the general massiveness typically associated with picatinny rings. The result a particularly svelte design. They’re almost in a class by themselves where that’s concerned. For lightweight, low profile applications, they’re ideal. KF rings utilize a single crossbolt style clamp. I find this much easier to manipulate than the dual socket head cap screw design utilized by APA and Seekins. This is something to consider in applications where the optic will be removed with any frequency. Another bonus is that KF rings fit both Weaver and Picatinny slots. Seekins are really work horse rings. They’re well made, reasonably priced, but blocky-chunky. APA rings are straight sexy, but not as lean or low as KF Rings. The one caveat with KF rings is as follows... If you,use a torque wrench you’ll need a T-15 bit with a long reduced shank. Like this. The hex portion of bits like this will bugger up the countersunk holes on the upper ring halves.
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Seekins 1” Rings fit Weaver/Warne style bases! Seekins’ larger 30mm and 34mm rings will only fit picatinny rails. Only the 1” rings fit both.
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As far as bases go you won't get lower than Warne steel weavers I milled the slots wider and deeper and added extra slots to match picattinys Something you need to watch is the ring claws fouling on the receiver ring, these SWFAs needed the claws ground
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**NEW**
Rings (larger measurement included with each is the distance to ocular center from top of P-rail)
1" PICATINNY RINGS: Seekins Precision 1” Low 0.76 or .26” (fit Weaver style) ARC M10 1" Low 0.79" or 0.29" Trijicon TR100/TR103 1" Std 0.82" Leupold QRW 1” Super Low .55 or .05” (Weaver style) Leupold QRW 1” Low .65 or .15” (Weaver style)
30mm PICATINNY RINGS: Ken Farrell 30mm Low Rings 0.735” APA 30mm Low 0.750" Leupold QRW 30mm Low .77” or .18” (Weaver-will fit picatinny) ARC M10 30mm Low 0.79" or 0.29" Badger Ordinance 30mm Std 0.82 or .23” (will fit Weaver) TPS Ultra Low 30mm TSR/TSRW/HRT 0.82” or .23” Seekins Precision 30mm Low 0.82 or .23” Warne Maxima QD 30mm Low 0.83 or .25” (Weaver style) Leupold Mark 4 Rings 30mm Med 0.84 or .25” LaRue 0.85 or .26” Warne Mountain Tech 30mm Low 0.866 or 0.276” Nightforce Ultralight 30mm Low 0.885 or .295” Trijicon TR104/TR107 30mm Std 0.95"
Bases for Rem. 700 SA: Burris XTR 2-Piece; R=0.292; F=0.174 Warne M673SA; 0MOA; Rem 700 SA R= .40; F=.29"; (Steel) Warne M673-20SA; 20MOA; Rem 700 SA R= .40"; F=.25"; (Steel) Badger Ordinance; 0MOA Rem 700 SA; R= .41"; F= .31"; (Steel) GG&G; 0MOA; Rem 700 SA; R= .42"; F= .28 (only available in steel 0MOA) * McCann Industries; 0MOA; Rem 700 SA; F= .44; F= .29” (only in steel 20MOA) **obsolete** Seekins; 0MOA; Rem 700 SA; R = .45”; F= .33”; (Aluminum) Seekins; 20MOA; Rem 700 SA; R = .45”; F= .31”; (Aluminum) Seekins; 30MOA; Rem 700 SA; R = .45”; F= .29”; (Aluminum) Badger Ordinance 0MOA; Rem 700 SA; R= .41; F= .31"; Steel LaRue; 0MOA; Rem 700 SA; R= .43" Rear (Aluminum) LaRue; 20MOA; Rem 700 SA; R= .46" Rear (Aluminum) Precision Armament Tennalum; 20MOA; 700 SA 20MOA; R = 0.52”; F = 0.375” Nightforce Ultralight One Piece Mount 30mm 20 MOA 700 SA; R=0.73”; F=0.59”
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Useful Info: 15 millimeters = 0.590551181 inches
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Brian, Thanks for assembling. Nice to have all this info in one spot.
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Hawkins Precision 30mm Low rings, 0.885”
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Weaver tactical 20 moa base for 700 SA. .43" & .30"
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Couple of comments.
Some rings (see pics of Seekins rings above) are designed to seat solidly on the top of the rail (aka the base.). For these rings, "height above the top of the rail" is a meaningful number.
However some other rings, maybe most (see pics of Warne rings above), are designed to seat on the left and right "male dovetails" of the rail. For reasons to be explained shortly, I call the imaginary line from the point of one male dovetail to the other the "datum." For these rings, one can slip a piece of paper between the mounted ring and the top of the rail. For these rings, 'height above the "datum" ' is the meaningful measure. Note that because different rails can have different dimensions from the "datum" to the top of the rail, a measure "above the top of the rail" depends on the ring AND which rail is used when the measurement is made. Obviously, this confuses the issue when trying to compare one ring of this style to another.
Granted, the differences may not be all that much, but it seems this thread is about exact dimensions and finding the "new record low."
My point is you really need to consider how the ring interfaces with the rail. In addition, depending on with style of interface, the height above the receiver ring (which is what we REALLY want to know) may depend on the height of the top of the rail from the top of the receiver, or it may depend on the height of the "datum" from the top of the receiver.
"Datum" heights above the top of the receiver ring can be measured. It is not too difficult, but it is best done with some specially made fixtures. I usually measure rings from "bottom of the saddle" (lowest point of the scope tube) to the "datum."
Finally, in the first post, I have never seen Leupold QRW rings with the dimensions given. I find those dimensions for Leupold QR rings, a completely different system than Weaver/Picatinny. I may be wrong, but I don't believe Leupold ever made Super Low QRW rings.
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