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Originally Posted by Gus
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Rulers that think they are tough like to take stuff away from the weak. Eventually they run into some folks that actually are tough and get their azzes handed to them. Human nature ad nauseum.


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we've come to this point in our selective evolution of humans on the urth.

some nearly 200 countries. we've pretty much fought our way to this point.

the fermentation and distillation of the human ideologies continue on forward.

the hammurabi code, the magna carta, the english kings, america becoming taxable.




You try to make the nature of man too complicated. If my force is greater than your force I get to make the rules, until yet a greater force comes along. Religion? philosophy? politics? All are dominated by the ability to apply the greater force at a given time and/or place.


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You know, off the top of my head, with the possible exception of WW1, I can't think of any war that wasn't started over money, land, or resources.
WW1 was really pretty senseless in the way it was allowed to begin. Europeon alliances just got outta hand, and one mistake lead into another.
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I really believe that the U.S. getting involved in WW 1 brought the whole world to disaster. There was a 20 year truce and rearming and then hell on earth for Europe and Asia which ended up under murderous communist dictatorships. If we had never fought Spain and steered clear of the European war it probably would have ended in basically a stalemate around 1920. It's extremely hard to imagine it could have turned out worse.


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The Influenza of 1918 had a lot to do with the war winding down with it did.

The real tragedy occurred at Versailles. Wilson was willing to trade anything for his Utopian League of Nations. In the process he permitted France to saddle Germany with surrender conditions and war debt that inevitably lead to a resumption of hostilities. This was predicted by John Maynard Keynes is his best work, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, published in 1919.

Text version:
http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/15776/pg15776.txt

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
You know, off the top of my head, with the possible exception of WW1, I can't think of any war that wasn't started over money, land, or resources.
WW1 was really pretty senseless in the way it was allowed to begin. Europeon alliances just got outta hand, and one mistake lead into another.
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World War One started over coal and Iron ore. The background politics was just the excuses for the real reasons.


Yup, and the oligarchs used the anarchists to start the violence, just as they are doing now. It's all about power and control. Wealth itself provides a certain amount of power, politically and economically, once you have the power, then it's about controlling the assets, which include the people.

Communists are all about control and with that control, they get and keep the power and wealth.

Dig back into recorded history and you will find that things have never changed. Doesn't matter what title you put on the masters, it's all about power. Basic human nature.

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Rulers want money and power.

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Money. The industrial complex must be fed.


This^^^. Gutlie Rothschild said, "If my sons wanted no wars, there would be none".

The one percenters ej, fiddler, la Roy, gayghost, etc love.


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Wars and rumors of wars.


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Originally Posted by stevelyn
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Always have been, always will be!



Wars and rumors of wars.

and my point is, thats not even close to an answer to the question. LOL. OT is the theme of 24....

War is simple as already noted. Struggle for power wealth fame and fortune, but I repeat myself.


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People have been fighting one another since the beginning of time, and always will.

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Arabs fight other Arabs and Jews. Europeans fight other Europeans and Asians fight Asians. Simple really..

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There is a saying that young men fight the wars that old men start.

If this is true, what happens to old men to make them want to see the blood of young men spilled.

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I just finished reading Battle Cry, the novel about the Marines in WW2 fighting on the Pacific against the "Japs".

Is it money, real-estate, minerals? Wars are old as time, and there are a few going on right now.

Call me Gus, and perhaps I ask stupid questions, just the feelings after reading the book.

Wars are started for different reasons. Usually none of them good reasons.

But in WWII I believe there were very good reasons for that one.

As to Marines fighting Japs in the Pacific, you do recall Pearl Harbor, don't you?


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The US did not start that war Rick.


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Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by wabigoon
I just finished reading Battle Cry, the novel about the Marines in WW2 fighting on the Pacific against the "Japs".

Is it money, real-estate, minerals? Wars are old as time, and there are a few going on right now.

Call me Gus, and perhaps I ask stupid questions, just the feelings after reading the book.

Wars are started for different reasons. Usually none of them good reasons.

But in WWII I believe there were very good reasons for that one.

As to Marines fighting Japs in the Pacific, you do recall Pearl Harbor, don't you?


WWII was simply WWI, Part 2. What England and France did to Germany at the end of WWI was reprehensible. That doesn't excuse Hitler's megalomania, extreme racism, nor the atrocities he inflicted on even his own people, but it DID give the populace a reason to back him (fully at first) and his agenda. We only got into it by being dragged into it by Hitler's obsession with destroying Great Britain, which caused our supply ships to be sunk, resulting in the loss of American lives and property. It didn't help that some of those ships were sunk off of the Texas coast in the Gulf of Mexico...

As for the Pacific part of WWII, Japan's desire to conquer the entire western Pacific Rim caused them to attack Pearl Harbor as a preemptive strike to prevent the US carrier fleet from stopping their conquest of the Pacific in order to fulfill their plans.

It still all boils down to money, power, and control.

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Originally Posted by wabigoon
I just finished reading Battle Cry, the novel about the Marines in WW2 fighting on the Pacific against the "Japs".

Is it money, real-estate, minerals? Wars are old as time, and there are a few going on right now.

Call me Gus, and perhaps I ask stupid questions, just the feelings after reading the book.


How was the book? Worth reading?


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I'm reading it again.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
The US did not start that war Rick.

I didn't say we did.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

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Originally Posted by papat
Money. The industrial complex must be fed.



These days, Y E S !!!


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In the 10 commandments God listed the rules for man to live by, and they are also listed in order of importance.

Rules #1 and #2 are foundational. ALL sin has to break one of both of commandments #1 and #2 before they break any other commandment, because ALL sin is an act of saying "I am equal or superior to God and can make my rules more important then His rules."

The first sin ever committed was when Lucifer wanted to be God and that's what got him kicked out of heaven and got him renamed as Satan. The sin nature passed down to all mankind was the same sin, wanting to be in charge, wanting to make our own rules and effectively wanting to be god in our own little spheres of life and influence. When someone is placed into a position of power over a nation or region and wants to be god they want to force their will on other people, all of which are seen in their eyes as "less then" they are. Their will is supreme in their mind, and all those that oppose their ideas are enemies ------------ or at least in the way of progress.

From which comes the creation of war and/or subjugation.

What the false gods want is not combat. They want victory. War is a condition when the opposition will not surrender without a fight. In MOST cases the largest segment of a society are cowards, and will surrender without a fight. We see that in California, Oregon, New Jersey, Illinois, and also in history in China, Russia, Germany France and on and on and on.

When a false god/man decides he or she wants the assets of another nation and invades the "frog can't be boiled slowly" so wars break out. What is odd is how people will fight a foreign false god and but allow the one that is a native of their own nation. In some of our states here in the USA, the males of those states have surrendered 100% to the communists already and they bitch and moan about the fact their freedoms are being "taken away" but that's just an excuse to cover the fact that NOTHING was TAKEN from them. All was simply surrendered.

But the reason we have war is that people want to be god, and those that are given power to command military force use it to try to say in the position of god. A Just War is one fought against such aggression. An unjust war is one waged by the aggressors.

It's going to be VERY bad for those thinking of themselves as gods when they meet the real Holy God face to face. AND THEY ALL WILL!!!

And it's not going to be good for those that follow them and believe in the false god's promise of comfort either.

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, (<<< my note: This means the cowardly) and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, (<<< My note: All of these fit the description of the largest majority of Democrats and Socialists, ---not that it means only Dem/Comms are in the category mind you....) shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

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The apostle Paul said that to break any of the law one first had to covet what was not his. To break any law begins with coveting and then involves the breaking of two laws.

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