The one big problem about dying while out hunting or fishing is the cost of finding and recovering your body that someone else has to pay. Like this guy whose boat sank. They had 2 teams of divers and sonar equipment out there. They found the boat in 100' of water so there was the cost of raising it. How much have they spent on searching for the guy in CO over the last week or so? Rescuers have died trying to retrieve a body in some hellacious place. It's not so great to die having fun when someone else has to die to bring you home.
If i'm in the backcountry and happen to pass, i'd prefer they leave me there and let nature run it's course.
The sheriff's dept says the boat is a 22' inboard. They don't have the equipment to raise it at this time. They haven't decided if they'll try later with larger recovery equipment. We may never find out why it sank.
I was thinking maybe a small aluminum boat, interesting, wonder what went wrong?
packing for the shaft maybe.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
I didn't expect to read anything about the cause of the boat sinking for a while but here's the latest. I don't know how many gpm a jet will pump but apparently it filled the boat in a hurry.
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ROGERSON — A Jerome man who was pulled from the water after a boat sank Friday morning is no longer listed as being hospitalized.
James A. Wilson, 65, of Jerome, was rescued from the Salmon Falls Creek Reservoir after the 22-foot Northwest jet boat he was on took on water and sank.
He was flown to St. Luke's Magic Valley Medical Center but has since been released, according to hospital administrators.
Eugene Holm, 80, of Heyburn, who died in the incident, was also on the boat when a water line broke in the engine, said Lori Stewart, Twin Falls County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman.
Holm was attempting to grab a life jacket when the boat tipped, sending him into the cabin where water overwhelmed him, Stewart said.
After the boat sank, search and rescue and dive teams from Twin Falls, Bonneville and Bingham Counties spent Friday afternoon and most of Saturday looking for the boat and recovering Holm's body, Stewart said.
The Cassia County dive team also joined the search on Saturday.
Gene Turley, Twin Falls County Coroner, confirmed Holm drowned and the incident is considered an accident.
The boat remains at the bottom of the reservoir, Stewart said. Efforts to bring it to the surface were unsuccessful Saturday because the teams did not have the proper equipment.
The boat will be recovered at some point, but Stewart was unable to say when.
The possible environmental impact should be minimal, said Mike Peterson, regional fisheries manager for Idaho Fish and Game.
"If they get it out in the next week or so, it may not leak at all," Peterson said, referring to the oil and fuel contained in the boat's engine.
Peterson also indicated, because the reservoir is so large, the dilution factor would negate any harm to fish.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
Nothing has been released yet on how the boat sank. I hope it's not something like dementia and forgetting the drain plug until it's too late. My dad was still piloting his boat until his mid 80's when dementia started coming on. I can see him doing something like that. He had severe dementia when he died at 92.
hell it don't take dementia for that. me and dad put in one predawn morning on the ottawa river and got about 50 feet from shore when we realized we forgot the plugs. made for a real quick trip back to shore and a beached boat. kinda killed the mood for the rest of the day if know what i mean.
There's 2 kinds of boaters. Those with a story about forgetting the plug and those who lie about it.
I’ve forgotten to put my plug in once so far, saw the water coming in an fired up the motor. We cruised around to let the water drain and then I stopped long enough to put the plug in.
I live only a few miles from where the elk hunter died & I've hunted that exact spot for many years. Last year on opening day of deer season one of my very best friends got stuck just a couple of miles from there. He started walking out & a couple of locals came by & helped him get out. As they were putting their tools away my buddy fell over dead from a heart attack. It hit my pretty hard because we almost always spend opening today together, I'm 74, he was a bit younger.We shared a lot of campfires together.
True story now, one of the guys that rescued him had a heart attack on opening day THIS year! He survived but just barely. They lived about 3-4 blocks apart.
I didn't expect to read anything about the cause of the boat sinking for a while but here's the latest. I don't know how many gpm a jet will pump but apparently it filled the boat in a hurry.
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ROGERSON — A Jerome man who was pulled from the water after a boat sank Friday morning is no longer listed as being hospitalized.
James A. Wilson, 65, of Jerome, was rescued from the Salmon Falls Creek Reservoir after the 22-foot Northwest jet boat he was on took on water and sank.
He was flown to St. Luke's Magic Valley Medical Center but has since been released, according to hospital administrators.
Eugene Holm, 80, of Heyburn, who died in the incident, was also on the boat when a water line broke in the engine, said Lori Stewart, Twin Falls County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman.
Holm was attempting to grab a life jacket when the boat tipped, sending him into the cabin where water overwhelmed him, Stewart said.
After the boat sank, search and rescue and dive teams from Twin Falls, Bonneville and Bingham Counties spent Friday afternoon and most of Saturday looking for the boat and recovering Holm's body, Stewart said.
The Cassia County dive team also joined the search on Saturday.
Gene Turley, Twin Falls County Coroner, confirmed Holm drowned and the incident is considered an accident.
The boat remains at the bottom of the reservoir, Stewart said. Efforts to bring it to the surface were unsuccessful Saturday because the teams did not have the proper equipment.
The boat will be recovered at some point, but Stewart was unable to say when.
The possible environmental impact should be minimal, said Mike Peterson, regional fisheries manager for Idaho Fish and Game.
"If they get it out in the next week or so, it may not leak at all," Peterson said, referring to the oil and fuel contained in the boat's engine.
Peterson also indicated, because the reservoir is so large, the dilution factor would negate any harm to fish.
Unless it's a simple matter of the guy being too old and helpless to be on the water without wearing flotation, there seems to be a lot missing from this story.
Long time ago in Wyoming, a guy had killed an elk and was trying to gut him out, apparantly trying to split the breast bone with a knife, being straddle of the carcass and cutting toward himself. Knife slipped, sliced his leg severing the main artery . They found him a couple days later slumped over the elk , must have bled out and died within a minute or so.
Just another reason it might not be a good idea to go hunting by yourself.
I know a lot of guys split the breast bone on deer or elk but I've never found a need to do so other than trying to keep blood off the shirt sleeves. High top gloves will handle that.
Not gutting even better.
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and fairness of the sport. - S. Pope
As a final followup to answer questions on the boat sinking... They got it out of the water. It took 18 men, 3 boats, and 10 hours to raise it 100', tow it to shore, and winch it onto a trailer. Now we know what happened. The exhaust manifold blew up and knocked a 5" hole in the hull. Water rushed in and tilted it, throwing the guy down in the water inside the cabin where he drowned. He was 80 and likely didn't have the balance or strength to deal with it. It was just one of those accidents that you can't predict. They didn't say how far from shore it was. That reservoir fills a very steep, deep canyon so even a couple hundred feet out could be as deep as 100', even now at low water. They didn't post a photo showing the hole.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
Jerry was a friend of mine in Milledgeville Georgia. Jerry was my roommate in college for a year. He got an RN degree in 1976. That is a solid gold career for a guy, but Jerry was not content. He was an avid hunter, I went deer hunting with him at least a hundred times. And, I must say, Jerry was a little weird. He got in to crow hunting, big time. He figured out a way to call crows in for a kill and he made a video on the subject, "Eating Crow."
Here ya go, if you want to have your own copy of "Eating Crow" now is your chance.
Jerry made a lot of money on the video, and he gave guided crow hunts in central Georgia. He had the ex governor of Louisiana fly in for a guided crow hunts. He made a lot of money off of crow hunting. Like I said, not my cup of tea, a little nutty, but that was what floated Jerry's boat.
And, a year ago, he was on a guided crow hunt one sunny October morning, went out into the pecan orchard to retrieve a dead crow, came back to the blind with his clients, sat down, and he keeled over with a massive heart attack. Died right there. Remember, Jerry had 40 years experience as an ER nurse, when he hit the dirt, he knew he was having a heart attack. And he knew he was dying. For the last two minutes of consciousness, Jerry knew that he was headed for the funeral home.
Anyway, he died "with his boots on" doing something he loved to do, as I said above beats hell out of 2 years in the nursing home, or, two weeks in ICU. Warm sunny October day, leaves turning, shotgun in one hand and Dead Right There.
Rest In Peace Jerry, I miss you.
Jerry flying his Goldwing ultralight, Washington County Georgia, 1983. I was 200 feet away, and a little above, flying my Goldwing.
The one big problem about dying while out hunting or fishing is the cost of finding and recovering your body that someone else has to pay. Like this guy whose boat sank. They had 2 teams of divers and sonar equipment out there. They found the boat in 100' of water so there was the cost of raising it. How much have they spent on searching for the guy in CO over the last week or so? Rescuers have died trying to retrieve a body in some hellacious place. It's not so great to die having fun when someone else has to die to bring you home.
If i'm in the backcountry and happen to pass, i'd prefer they leave me there and let nature run it's course.
Me too, around here I'd be et by feral hogs pretty quick, prob'ly save a lot on funeral expenses tho....
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
Very recently a 55 year old living outside of Lander WY went out to scout elk on his 4 wheeler. He apparantly got too sideways on a hill and rolled it down into a gully, killing him. Search and Rescue finally found him 3 days later, IIRC . This an experienced person, not a nimrod by any means. Points out again the folly of going out by yourself.
As a final followup to answer questions on the boat sinking... They got it out of the water. It took 18 men, 3 boats, and 10 hours to raise it 100', tow it to shore, and winch it onto a trailer. Now we know what happened. The exhaust manifold blew up and knocked a 5" hole in the hull. Water rushed in and tilted it, throwing the guy down in the water inside the cabin where he drowned. He was 80 and likely didn't have the balance or strength to deal with it. It was just one of those accidents that you can't predict. They didn't say how far from shore it was. That reservoir fills a very steep, deep canyon so even a couple hundred feet out could be as deep as 100', even now at low water. They didn't post a photo showing the hole.
Very recently a 55 year old living outside of Lander WY went out to scout elk on his 4 wheeler. He apparantly got too sideways on a hill and rolled it down into a gully, killing him. Search and Rescue finally found him 3 days later, IIRC . This an experienced person, not a nimrod by any means. Points out again the folly of going out by yourself.
Yeah, we wouldn't want to go outside without help. That would be scary and stuff.
_______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack
I had a friend who died in his early fifties. He and some friends were hunting whitetails in the black hills part of Wyoming. He sat down after lunch to take a nap in a recliner in an old house they were using as a hunting camp. He never woke up. It was hard on us as friends and his family but I've always thought that would be about as good a way to check out as possible.
all great true stories , and at my age of 66 and my health problems: i might start wearing my boots to bed just in case ? "nothing golden about Golden years" .anyway hope you all have great safe hunts this fall 2019 and keep your boots on ! Pete53
If I happen to kick off while hunting or fishing (and I am out by myself all the time) and society wants to spend a bunch of money searching for the carcass, that's society's problem; it's not mine. As I get older, I suppose the risk is greater but I figure to push it. I'm ashamed that I didn't try for my sheep this year but the new pup is interfereing with my lifestyle a bit. I figure I might be able to look forward to ten more years in the mountains ( if I'm optimistic) and I hope to get as much time in as I can. GD
We have a penchant for bringing them home. Our whole military system says that nobody's left behind. That's a major change from 2 world wars where we left graves by the thousands. It started around the Vietnam era. We don't leave bodies out there where they die anymore. The families always want them back for a 'proper' burial.
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It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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