While I was typing my reply disappeared. My wife has tried several revolvers and auto pistols. When she picked up a Glock 23, she told me she would probably carry it. She has carried it everywhere. She shoots it really well. Her belief is if she has to pull it she wants a big hole. She also believes if she has to pull it she will give them all 13 rounds. We normally shoot 180 grain bullets at around 1050. Recoil with this load is more of a shove back than a sharp kick up like a 9mm. She says our friends 19 kicks harder. As long as she carries it, I'll let her carry what is comfortable for her. She wanted a Glock 21sf but after shooting one she didn't recover from recoil very well and couldnt get back on target accurately.
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Rule no. 1. Never pick out a gun for your wife or GF.Let them shoot as many as they can get their hands on. A Lady Smith is pretty snappy wit +P loads and even std loads. Most compacts and sub compacts are the same in a 9MM. Two reasons the gun isn't carried is it is too heavy or too much recoil. A lot of the striker fired guns are getting very popular. Beretta, Sig, and Glock all have them Good triggers, easy slide operation and not uch recoil. Cute should not be in the equation for selection IMHO.
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My wife loved a Taurus for shooting at the range. Don't recall the model, something like PT908, which I gave to my daughter when wife died. Daughter got a CCW and carried it for a good while. Meantime I decided on a S&W 642 for pocket carry with a CCW. Daughter fell in love with it so I bought her one too. Reworked both triggers. She shoots it quite well, but prefers the Taurus for the range. Look at the 642. Agree the choice should be the lady's. Not here.
The more women that we can get to own a handgun and learn to shoot it and carry it the better off we all are. I don't care what color they want. A range gun is different than a carry gun. My wife shoots a 4 inch .357 Magnum revolver. She would not carry it on a daily basis. Thats reality.
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
Check out the G48, A little slimmer and holds less rounds, but has the same grip length and slide length, within a couple mm of the G19, nicer to carry and better grip for smaller hands.
My wife carries a full size m&p 2.0 9mm, I let her take it to the range one time and she's kept it ever since.
Cute should not be in the equation for selection IMHO.
Why not? You’ve never chosen a gun where aesthetics played any part of the decision?
If purple with pink polk a dots gets her interested in shooting with me , so be it
Take cute out of the selection process. Once she decides which one she can shoot accurately, fits her well and she is willing to carry, then make it cute.
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Cute should not be in the equation for selection IMHO.
Why not? You’ve never chosen a gun where aesthetics played any part of the decision?
If purple with pink polk a dots gets her interested in shooting with me , so be it
Take cute out of the selection process. Once she decides which one she can shoot accurately, fits her well and she is willing to carry, then make it cute.
If it's not cute enough to begin with, she may never shoot is enough to get accurate and comfortable enough to carry it.
If you want to guarantee she doesn't shoot it much, don't pay attention to what important to her.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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She has chosen one of the best all around handguns ever made, and one that has been vetted all over the globe time and time again. She likes the color.
Why not make her happy and get what SHE wants.
She will have an incredible firearm, and one that will be about impossible to wear out. She will be happy because SHE chose it, not her husband. If her husband chooses it, there will always be some resentment for the condescension (little lady doesn't know any better" type mentality. Women are not stupid. They know that they may not know firearms as well as men (in general) but sometimes you are doing a disservice by steering them away when they have found a handgun with a stellar track record. It is not about what the man wants.
And she sure as hell does not need a J Frame. Few guns will make a female hate shooting quicker than a J Frame snubby with its painful recoil and crappy sights. That is not a gun for a novice.
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.
The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.
Back when I was married my Ex kept leaving the home defense Glock 19 chamber-empty because it was “safer”. So I settled on the 3” S&W Mod 60 that she learned to shoot handguns with for the readily available home defense gun. No confusion, simple to operate, aim and pull the trigger.
She wanted an Airweight, I got her one, she shot it well enough out to 15 yards with non plusP loads. As far as I know she still has it.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
While I might recommend a single stack Glock for a female's smaller hands, or an S&W Shield (My 17 year old loves hers) I think it is very important that the individual female have total ownership in the gun. They don't think like men, and it has been my experience that many consider it condescending when men tell them "No you don't need this, you want this".
When doing classes with large numbers of females, the best bet is to use the Socratic Method of teaching.
Asking and answering questions to stimulate critical thinking.
Let them develop their own answers and gently guide them down a path to discover what suits them best.
Even if a Glock 19 is not absolutely 100% optimal over say a Glock 43 or a S&W Shield, the fact that she picked it is going to make her happier in the long run, and she is still going to end up with an awesome pistol that she will enjoy.
Happy Wife Happy Life.
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.
The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.