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Matt, anymore I find shooting just as fun as hunting. Pushing the envelope with new powders and heavy bullets and sending them into dry print is part of that.
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Because of the faster 1/10 twist and 24" barrel I'm looking forward to spinning some 300's and 320's in it. That sounds fun--it almost makes me want to buy one just for the the ridiculous enjoyment of it. Are these a limited run, or is Lipsey's going to keep ordering them?
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Matt, anymore I find shooting just as fun as hunting. Pushing the envelope with new powders and heavy bullets and sending them into dry print is part of that. I agree entirely. I’ve seriously considered getting some of those big Dreadnought bullets, just for fun, myself. I’m wondering if the heavy Norma’s are as tough as Woodleigh’s? Might make a great bovine smacker!
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Because of the faster 1/10 twist and 24" barrel I'm looking forward to spinning some 300's and 320's in it. That sounds fun--it almost makes me want to buy one just for the the ridiculous enjoyment of it. Are these a limited run, or is Lipsey's going to keep ordering them? Limited run of 250 rifles. Get one while the gettin’s good!
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JGray,
I once had two 9.3x62's, but decided I liked one better than the other, so sold the other.
But must admit to still having a 9.3 "problem," since I still have my 9.3 Barsness-Sisk custom rifle, which produces exactly the same ballistics as the 9.3x62 in a short action, and a German side-by-side 9.3x74R, which produces exactly the same ballistics as the 9.3x62 in either barrels. So maybe I have four?
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SU35,
The long-time standard 1-14 twist in the 9.3x62 will easily stabilize even the Woodlight 320 spitzer. I know this not because of using rifling-twist formulaes, both old and new, but because my 1-14 twist CZ 550 shoots it under an inch, just like it does about any 9..3mm bullet--including the very long 286-grain Barnes TSX.
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John, you were a big influence on my 9.3 'problem'. When you initially wrote about your CZ 550 Lux (2000-2002?) I had Capital Sports order me one and ingwe helped lighten my wallet when it arrived. That followed with a Ruger No. 1 9.3×74 and later the original 77 African 9.3x62. It looks like I'm currently at four 9.3's and have been telling myself 1 or 2 need to go. Then I had a brain fart this morning and thought the heavier barreled African might be a candidate for a rebore/rechamber to 400 Whelen which is another itch I've had for a while now.
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Discussing weights and barrel contours of the original vs current Africans, my original weighs 8 lb 2 oz and mics 0.67" at the crown. The new one is 7 lb 5 oz and 0.56" - pretty noticeable difference...
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I took a couple of side-by-side pics of my new Ruger and my old Type A Mauser, both in 9.3x62, and made some copparisons, as they both seem to have a lot in common: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...psey-s-ruger-african-and-mauser-a-9-3x62The images in the post can be made bigger by clicking on them.
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Might make a great bovine smacker! That's my thinking. SMACK! yeah, I think so.....
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Every Ruger that I have owned (9.3x62, 375 Ruger, 35 Whelen, 358 Win and 6.5 Creedmoor) shot great. My 9.3x62 African shoots 3/4" with 250 grain Accubonds all day long.
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SU35,
The long-time standard 1-14 twist in the 9.3x62 will easily stabilize even the Woodlight 320 spitzer. Yes, for sure, knew that. I wanting the 1/10 twist more for impact effect with the heavier bullets. In my 35 cals Remington 1/16 twist compared to the Ruger 1/10 twist. The Ruger gave greater penetration with heavier bullets shooting into dry print.
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That's interesting, as i have generally found faster twists result in wider expansion and hence less penetration. Which bullets?
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I read that faster twist rates help SOLIDS/FMJ’s stay straight and penetrate deep, but that’s only anecdotal to me. I have 0 first hand on that on. It makes sense to me, though.
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Either way, I like the effect of the faster twist on bullet impact.
Shot some Norma 325 grain Oryx today burning N550 62.0 grains, all just under an inch. 2,339 2,331 2,318
Bet the bovine would hate this load.
Nosler 250 AB's, burning N540 63.5 grains for 2,725 mv average, shot accurate.
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Either way, I like the effect of the faster twist on bullet impact.
Shot some Norma 325 grain Oryx today burning N550 62.0 grains, all just under an inch. 2,339 2,331 2,318
Bet the bovine would hate this load.
Nosler 250 AB's, burning N540 63.5 grains for 2,725 mv average, shot accurate.
👍👍😃 That is sweet. Thanks for the loads!!
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I almost bought one for $1,050.00 the other day from an outfit in PA, but none of the three he had had anything but very ordinary wood. Lipsey's has been known to send out some very nice looking guns, but these were not anything special, and I have my Husqvarna FN/98 commercial action 9,3 already.
The trimmed down version of what I did try in the original Ruger 9.3s does definitely hold my interest, however.
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Yeah, every one Ive seen of every caliber issued has had plain straight grain wood. I don't care personally but I know a lot of guys are looking for good wood at that price point.
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SU35,
One of the most interesting twist comparisons I've in on was with a then-new plastic-tipped, 55-grain .224 inch varmint bullet. Was hunting prairie dogs, and my shooting partner had a 1-8 twist .223 AR-15, using loads that got around 3100 fps, while I was using a 1-14 twist .220 Swift with the same bullet at 3800. The bullets from .223 "expanded" PD's a LOT more violently than the much faster Swift load!
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