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looking at some lever guns some of the henry's and the old 92's and 94's have that half moon metal butt plate. for me its not comfortable and seems not conducive to fast shouldering of the rifle.
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If you're referring to the crescent butt plate then I gotta point out that few people know/remember how to properly use one. It doesn't go into the hollow of your shoulder like we all do with "modern" butts, rather it was meant to sort of hook into the extreme upper arm next to the shoulder joint. At least that's how a couple really old guys explained it to me 50 years ago or so, and it makes sense to me. I have a couple rifles with crescent butt plates and that's how I use them, and don't find them to be slow to "shoulder" at all. (Inadvertently sticking a sharp kicker like a .30-30 carbine with crescent butt plate into your shoulder wrong can be a wake up call!)
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If you're referring to the crescent butt plate then I gotta point out that few people know/remember how to properly use one. It doesn't go into the hollow of your shoulder like we all do with "modern" butts, rather it was meant to sort of hook into the extreme upper arm next to the shoulder joint. At least that's how a couple really old guys explained it to me 50 years ago or so, and it makes sense to me. I have a couple rifles with crescent butt plates and that's how I use them, and don't find them to be slow to "shoulder" at all. (Inadvertently sticking a sharp kicker like a .30-30 carbine with crescent butt plate into your shoulder wrong can be a wake up call!) that is why I asked, see you have a solution to it, I will try that next time I am looking at one, thank you!!!
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All I can tell you is my 1886 Browning Repro in 45-70 has one and it's freaking brutal !
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That would be brutal! Yikes! Try it outboard of the shoulder joint, with elbow raised to horizontal. A bit awkward at first if it's counter-intuitive to your current technique, but it may help tame the beastie!!
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Gnoahhhh is right. It's meant to fit on the ball of your shoulder not the meat of it. That's how they shot in the old days.
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Mounted correctly they are actually mild. Mounted wrong and you will be muttering to your shoelaces! About 50 or so years ago I learned the hard way, the bruises are just about gone but the knob on my collar bone still hurts time to time. Mine was a 1886 win lightweight takedown. 45-70
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