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I had a new Leup 3.5X10CDS with a zero stop sitting in a box waiting to be used or sold. Stumbled across a Savage 93, .22 Mag, 21" heavy fluted bbl, nice laminated stock. Well Perfect for my leupie. Followed me home.
Drawer full of mounts so in a short time I was setup on my deck with targets at 50 & 100.

Rifle with CCI maxi mags shot dime sized groups at 50. Eight clicks up and it was shooting nickel sized 5 shot groups at 100. Back to zero and yikes 1" low and 1"right!

Re sighted and eight clicks up and the group only moved up less than a inch . back to zero and its high and left.

I am done. How can a company that was #1 for so long produce crap like this.


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It is very frustrating! I still have 5 or 6 VX1 and VX2’s and only use them as set and forget scopes. Just ordered my first SHV and will slowly switch over to Nightforce from here on out with a few Meopta’s mixed in.

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That's what I have been doing. I have a NF SHV for three years. I t's a bomb.


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I’ve been there. The clicks are random. And then sometimes the input adjust as you do it, and other times it doesn’t move until you shoot. The one I plan to use is purely set and forget.

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Originally Posted by leftycarbon
That's what I have been doing. I have a NF SHV for three years. I t's a bomb.


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Glad to hear it. I have been planning to get one for awhile and the 15% off black friday deal got me to finally order one.

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Originally Posted by leftycarbon
I had a new Leup 3.5X10CDS with a zero stop sitting in a box waiting to be used or sold. Stumbled across a Savage 93, .22 Mag, 21" heavy fluted bbl, nice laminated stock. Well Perfect for my leupie. Followed me home.
Drawer full of mounts so in a short time I was setup on my deck with targets at 50 & 100.

Rifle with CCI maxi mags shot dime sized groups at 50. Eight clicks up and it was shooting nickel sized 5 shot groups at 100. Back to zero and yikes 1" low and 1"right!

Re sighted and eight clicks up and the group only moved up less than a inch . back to zero and its high and left.

I am done. How can a company that was #1 for so long produce crap like this.


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Been there done that, no mo Leupies for me!

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Leopold have BAD erector springs. Always have, and they refuse to change em. What amazes me is that guys keep expecting them to work....... The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result.

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Originally Posted by atse
Leopold have BAD erector springs. Always have, and they refuse to change em. What amazes me is that guys keep expecting them to work....... The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result.


I can remember back a few years on the 'fire , a 6x42 leup with elevation turret was considered the end all be all.........

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Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
Originally Posted by atse
Leopold have BAD erector springs. Always have, and they refuse to change em. What amazes me is that guys keep expecting them to work....... The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result.


I can remember back a few years on the 'fire , a 6x42 leup with elevation turret was considered the end all be all.........

The opinion, as I remember, the fixed power Leupolds were somehow better.

I don't have any 6X leupolds, so can't say.

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Saddest part is their best hunting scopes aren’t available with capped turrets. The HD scopes are generally nice scopes except for this CDS crap.

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I purged all Leupold's years ago. When you spend the amount of $$ that VX-6's sell for you'd expect them to track better than a Simmons or Tasco but they don't.

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So frustrating. BT/DT.

My biggest source of frustration was the windage adjustment. Seemed to always be screwed up.

Originally Posted by leftycarbon
I had a new Leup 3.5X10CDS with a zero stop sitting in a box waiting to be used or sold. Stumbled across a Savage 93, .22 Mag, 21" heavy fluted bbl, nice laminated stock. Well Perfect for my leupie. Followed me home.
Drawer full of mounts so in a short time I was setup on my deck with targets at 50 & 100.

Rifle with CCI maxi mags shot dime sized groups at 50. Eight clicks up and it was shooting nickel sized 5 shot groups at 100. Back to zero and yikes 1" low and 1"right!

Re sighted and eight clicks up and the group only moved up less than a inch . back to zero and its high and left.

I am done. How can a company that was #1 for so long produce crap like this.


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I think the issue is denial for most. I had it for years. Sighting in was always a struggle.

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Leopold have BAD erector springs. Always have, and they refuse to change em. What amazes me is that guys keep expecting them to work....... The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result.

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Originally Posted by leftycarbon
I had a new Leup 3.5X10CDS with a zero stop sitting in a box waiting to be used or sold. Stumbled across a Savage 93, .22 Mag, 21" heavy fluted bbl, nice laminated stock. Well Perfect for my leupie. Followed me home.
Drawer full of mounts so in a short time I was setup on my deck with targets at 50 & 100.

Rifle with CCI maxi mags shot dime sized groups at 50. Eight clicks up and it was shooting nickel sized 5 shot groups at 100. Back to zero and yikes 1" low and 1"right!

Re sighted and eight clicks up and the group only moved up less than a inch . back to zero and its high and left.

I am done. How can a company that was #1 for so long produce crap like this.


Lefty


Oh come on now. Are you a Leupold basher?
Originally Posted by atse
Leopold have BAD erector springs. Always have, and they refuse to change em. What amazes me is that guys keep expecting them to work....... The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result.


What baffles me is the guys that swear they have 100 Leupolds and none of them have issues. I've seen it a hundred times and won't buy their chit every again. I was at a LGS a month ago and a guy and gal bring in this nice rifle with a Leupold on it and are wondering why it's not adjusting at all when they were trying to adjust it. The lady at the counter couldn't explain why. Just another damn Leupy failure is why...


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Well damnit old buddy BSA, it kind of happened to me, I bought a spanking new VX-R 3-9x40 30mm for a 358 Norma mag rebuild, Smith finished the rifle, I picked it up and brought it home to install my new scope, that sombitch laying in it's factory box somehow started growing whiskers on the GD reticlemad fuggin blew me away, I've got to call leupold now!!!!!


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Well damnit old buddy BSA, it kind of happened to me, I bought a spanking new VX-R 3-9x40 30mm for a 358 Norma mag rebuild, Smith finished the rifle, I picked it up and brought it home to install my new scope, that sombitch laying in it's factory box somehow started growing whiskers on the GD reticlemad fuggin blew me away, I've got to call leupold now!!!!!

Damn, I'm sorry to hear that. The VXR is the only one that really caught my attention. They seem like they should be stronger with their 30mm tubes. The illuminated reticles are cool too.


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Yeah, it was going to be a set and verify a couple times a year deal, the lit reticle WAS nice.


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Little off topic
But Doug started a thread on leupold and was to contact them with our concerns.
What ever happened with that ?


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Grow up. I have returned Minox, Vortex, and SWFA x2 for warrant return and never ever a Leupold and I have owned more Leupolds than all others combined. Do I feel butthurt over it? NO. Good Lord.


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Originally Posted by leftycarbon
I had a new Leup 3.5X10CDS with a zero stop sitting in a box waiting to be used or sold. Stumbled across a Savage 93, .22 Mag, 21" heavy fluted bbl, nice laminated stock. Well Perfect for my leupie. Followed me home.
Drawer full of mounts so in a short time I was setup on my deck with targets at 50 & 100.

Rifle with CCI maxi mags shot dime sized groups at 50. Eight clicks up and it was shooting nickel sized 5 shot groups at 100. Back to zero and yikes 1" low and 1"right!

Re sighted and eight clicks up and the group only moved up less than a inch . back to zero and its high and left.

I am done. How can a company that was #1 for so long produce crap like this.


Lefty


This describes the last couple of Leupolds I owned, which was the top of their line..


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