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Quickload calculation request #14336703 12/04/19
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I want to develop loads for an old Savage M219 (break-action single shot) chambered in .30-30 Winchester, but I want to use the Nosler .308" 168gr Ballistic Tip Boattail Hunting bullet (remember, its a single-shot so pointy bullets are okay). I am an experienced and cautious handloader. My search of various data sources, some more trust-worthy than others, turned up the powder & charge possibilities shown in the data request shown below:

Cartridge: .30-30 Winchester
Cartridge overall length: 2.734”
Bullet touching/jammed into lands at C.O.A.L. (Y/N): No
Bullet: Nosler .308” 168gr Ballistic Tip Boattail Hunting (Part #30168)
Measured bullet length: 1.304”
Powder type & charge weight: H4895 32gr; H322 32gr; H335 35gr; 2520 31.5gr
Case length: 2.029
Case water capacity (measured level to case mouth): 45gr
Barrel length: 26”
Barrel twist rate: 1 in 12

I don't want to exceed 42,000 psi! I would appreciate it greatly if someone who has Quickload would check its calculations for those loads. And beyond that, what other powder & charge combinations Quickload might suggest. I always start low and slowly work up.

Thanks in advance, guys.
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I'd run that for you but don't have access to my PC at the moment. Nonetheless, I would think any published data for a 170-grain bullet should be useable.


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Yes, I agree, keeping in mind that the Nosler 168gr has less bearing surface than the 170gr round-noses. The 168gr may therefore fly faster or at lower pressure.
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Easiest way to compare four different powders:


Code
Cartridge          : .30-30 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 168, Nosler BalTip 30168
Useable Case Capaci: 33.796 grain H2O = 2.194 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.734 inch = 69.44 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 42000 psi, or 289 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 107 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Accurate 2520                       98.0     32.2     2.09    2294    97.7    42000    4564   1.455  
Hodgdon H4895                       97.6     30.4     1.97    2267    94.8    42000    4571   1.463  
Hodgdon H335                        88.9     30.2     1.96    2265    98.2    42000    4403   1.455  
Hodgdon H322                        93.9     28.4     1.84    2261    99.0    42000    4278   1.451  


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I am surprised that the 26-inch barrel didn't provide more velocity boost. I suppose it just can't do it when powder capacity is limited as it is in the .30-30 case.


Just for comparison's sake, a 170-grain Sierra (but at the same OAL, which you probably would not do):


Code
Cartridge          : .30-30 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 170, Sierra SPFN 30-30 2010
Useable Case Capaci: 39.330 grain H2O = 2.554 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.734 inch = 69.44 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 42000 psi, or 289 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 107 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Accurate 2520                       92.0     35.2     2.28    2349    98.9    42000    5120   1.454
Hodgdon H4895                       92.1     33.4     2.16    2332    96.6    42000    5187   1.453
Hodgdon H335                        83.7     33.1     2.15    2322    99.2    42000    4940   1.448
Hodgdon H322                        88.5     31.1     2.02    2319    99.7    42000    4790   1.443




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Thank you, RiverRider, for doing that. Now, I don't have any experience interpreting Quickload calculations, so please check my interpretations:
1. Any of the four powders I asked about appear prudent choices for this pressure limitation and my bullet choice.
2. 2520 appears to be the most likely to produce the highest velocity within the pressure limitation.
3. Any of the four might produce the best accuracy, but since H322 produces the lowest muzzle pressure it has the better chance to be the most accurate.
4. Should I consider the calculated charge weights for each powder as "Do not exceed" charges?

By the way, I didn't state it but my velocity goal was 2250fps, and I'm happy to see that it looks attainable.
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Oh, regarding the data for 170gr bullets:you're right that it likely wouldn't be possible to seat those short, rounded ogive bullets out that far. I measured proper C.O.A.L. for my chamber and leade with the streamlined 168 boattails, and then backed off that by a couple of thousandths.
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Originally Posted by Jerry/AK
Thank you, RiverRider, for doing that. Now, I don't have any experience interpreting Quickload calculations, so please check my interpretations:
1. Any of the four powders I asked about appear prudent choices for this pressure limitation and my bullet choice.
2. 2520 appears to be the most likely to produce the highest velocity within the pressure limitation.
3. Any of the four might produce the best accuracy, but since H322 produces the lowest muzzle pressure it has the better chance to be the most accurate.
4. Should I consider the calculated charge weights for each powder as "Do not exceed" charges?

By the way, I didn't state it but my velocity goal was 2250fps, and I'm happy to see that it looks attainable.
Jerry/AK




You're welcome Jerry.

Well...to begin with, I never regard QL output as "data." I think it's really more of an educated guess, or ballpark estimation. It's not a perfect program. As far as predicting accuracy potential, maybe and maybe not. In my opinion, QL is good for evaluating powders for potential results and staying relatively safe. The way I generally use QL is to monitor velocity and not exceed the prediction for the corresponding max pressure, and to get an idea what starting charge weights to use.

If I was to be doing this, I'd try H4895 and H322 first simply because they should behave the best under different temperatures. That may or not be something that concerns you.


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I also view computer program output as "educated guesses. smile

Although I inquired about those four specific powders, will Quickload suggest others? Your point about expecting a velocity advantage from my 26" barrel was something that occurred to me also. Maybe a slightly slower burning rate than the powders I asked about would help? Maybe Reloder 15, Varget, N540, or H380 (all of which I already have)??

I really appreciate you taking time to consider my questions.
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Here's an unfiltered powder profile. Let's see if any will get significantly more velocity:


Code
Cartridge          : .30-30 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 168, Nosler BalTip 30168
Useable Case Capaci: 33.800 grain H2O = 2.195 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.734 inch = 69.44 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 42000 psi, or 289 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 107 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
IMR 3031                           102.7     29.9     1.94    2320    99.6    42000    4516   1.434  
Accurate 2495                      100.5     30.6     1.99    2315    99.9    42000    4513   1.475  
Accurate 4064                      106.5     32.5     2.10    2314    98.8    42000    4657   1.471  
Alliant AR-Comp                     97.8     29.5     1.91    2303   100.0    42000    4147   1.434  
Norma 203 old                      105.9     33.3     2.16    2303    95.5    42000    4762   1.451  
Hodgdon BL-C2                       97.2     33.0     2.14    2298    95.7    42000    4742   1.447  
Alliant Reloder-17                 107.0     35.0     2.27    2297    92.9    41351    5070   1.448  
IMR 4895                           101.4     31.6     2.05    2295    94.3    42000    4749   1.450  
Accurate 2520                       98.0     32.2     2.09    2294    97.7    42000    4564   1.455  
Lovex D073.6 Match Rifle           100.2     32.2     2.09    2294    97.7    42000    4564   1.455  
Winchester 748                      94.0     31.5     2.04    2291    96.7    42000    4599   1.443  
Hodgdon CFE223                      96.0     33.3     2.16    2289    94.2    42000    4743   1.444  
Norma 203B                         102.7     32.0     2.07    2285    94.1    42000    4687   1.453  
Alliant Reloder-15                 102.0     31.8     2.06    2278    93.3    42000    4664   1.456  
Ramshot Big Game                   101.6     33.7     2.18    2277    93.2    42000    4692   1.447  
Vihtavuori N540                    101.3     31.9     2.07    2269    98.1    42000    4502   1.456  
Hodgdon H4895                       97.6     30.4     1.97    2267    94.8    42000    4571   1.463  
Norma 202                           98.8     30.3     1.96    2266    98.3    42000    4411   1.461  
Hodgdon H335                        88.9     30.2     1.96    2265    98.2    42000    4403   1.455  
Ramshot Wild Boar                   96.2     32.0     2.08    2262    93.8    42000    4566   1.455  
Hodgdon H322                        93.9     28.4     1.84    2261    99.0    42000    4278   1.452  
Hodgdon H414                       106.6     35.1     2.28    2260    86.7    42000    4756   1.453  
Winchester 760                     106.6     35.1     2.28    2260    86.7    42000    4756   1.453  
Hodgdon H380                       103.6     33.0     2.14    2257    91.2    42000    4618   1.463  
Lovex S062                         102.8     31.2     2.02    2255    95.8    42000    4467   1.471  
Vihtavuori N530                     93.8     29.4     1.90    2246    95.8    42000    4409   1.464  
Vihtavuori N140                    101.0     30.9     2.00    2246    98.5    42000    4245   1.459  
Lovex D073.5                        92.7     31.0     2.01    2243    96.8    42000    4352   1.483  
Accurate 2460                       92.4     31.0     2.01    2243    96.8    42000    4352   1.483  
Norma 201                           99.1     30.2     1.96    2241    95.8    42000    4421   1.484  
IMR 4320                           102.7     31.5     2.04    2240    93.2    42000    4444   1.455  
Alliant Reloder-10x                 90.9     26.7     1.73    2239   100.0    42000    4019   1.476  
IMR 8208 XBR                        95.5     29.8     1.93    2234    95.6    42000    4333   1.468  
Alliant Reloder-12                  93.4     29.7     1.92    2233    98.9    42000    4165   1.463  
Vihtavuori N135                    107.0     30.2     1.96    2232    99.4    39435    4181   1.491  
Vihtavuori N550                    107.0     34.1     2.21    2231    89.8    38255    4769   1.504  
Accurate 2015                       94.1     28.1     1.82    2229    99.9    42000    4010   1.484  
Lovex D073.4                        90.8     30.3     1.96    2229    96.6    42000    4261   1.482  
Hodgdon VARGET                     103.0     31.0     2.01    2226    92.7    42000    4395   1.464  
IMR 4064                           104.1     30.6     1.99    2225    93.1    42000    4339   1.468  
Norma 200                           87.3     26.6     1.72    2224   100.0    42000    3907   1.499  
Accurate 2230                       91.7     30.9     2.00    2221    94.9    42000    4279   1.481  
Ramshot TAC                         94.8     31.9     2.06    2207    90.0    42000    4361   1.480  
Ramshot X-Terminator                92.2     30.7     1.99    2206    93.6    42000    4265   1.482  
Vihtavuori N133                     99.2     28.3     1.83    2199    99.7    42000    3850   1.473  
Accurate 2200                       85.1     26.9     1.75    2195    97.4    42000    4043   1.480  
Hodgdon Benchmark                   93.4     28.7     1.86    2194    96.2    42000    4107   1.484  
IMR 4198                            88.9     24.8     1.61    2194   100.0    42000    3655   1.465  
IMR 4451 Enduron                   104.8     32.3     2.09    2191    87.0    42000    4302   1.476  
IMR 4007 SSC                       103.8     32.8     2.12    2190    86.2    42000    4326   1.488  
Vihtavuori N130                     92.9     27.1     1.75    2188   100.0    42000    3778   1.486  
Alliant Reloder-7                   84.2     25.4     1.64    2183   100.0    42000    3713   1.495  
Lovex S060                          96.1     29.1     1.89    2182    93.8    42000    4110   1.486  
Accurate 1680                       77.5     25.2     1.63    2178    99.4    42000    3817   1.484  
Winchester 296                      65.6     22.0     1.42    2176   100.0    42000    3532   1.504  
Lovex S065                         107.0     32.6     2.11    2170    88.5    39018    4342   1.527  
Lovex D060                          74.4     21.7     1.40    2165   100.0    42000    3660   1.484  
Accurate 5744                       72.8     21.7     1.40    2165   100.0    42000    3660   1.484  
IMR 4166 Enduron                   102.9     30.7     1.99    2162    87.2    42000    4129   1.494  
Vihtavuori N120                     87.1     24.8     1.61    2158   100.0    42000    3352   1.490  
Hodgdon H4198                       85.3     25.0     1.62    2156    98.5    42000    3723   1.485  
Norma URP                          107.0     33.0     2.14    2152    87.9    34985    4539   1.561
Vihtavuori N125                     81.7     23.7     1.53    2149   100.0    42000    3329   1.496  
Hodgdon H4227                       79.9     22.8     1.48    2146   100.0    42000    3364   1.485  
Lovex D063                          70.3     22.9     1.48    2144   100.0    42000    3485   1.484  
Vihtavuori N150                    107.0     31.5     2.04    2142    94.2    35836    4230   1.557  
Accurate 2700                      103.3     33.6     2.18    2138    85.5    42000    4017   1.504  
Ramshot Hunter                     107.0     34.4     2.23    2134    84.3    35432    4506   1.562
Lovex S070                         107.0     33.0     2.14    2134    85.4    36305    4328   1.564  
Norma 204                          107.0     34.4     2.23    2127    80.5    38015    4308   1.536  
Accurate 4350                      107.0     33.3     2.16    2126    87.2    32356    4558   1.606
Hodgdon H110                        66.8     22.3     1.45    2121   100.0    42000    3263   1.520  
IMR 4350                           107.0     33.2     2.15    2117    83.6    37401    4170   1.547  
Lovex S053                          80.0     22.4     1.45    2111   100.0    42000    3167   1.508  
Alliant Reloder-16                 107.0     32.5     2.10    2099    87.1    31881    4511   1.614
Hodgdon Lil'Gun                     65.6     21.2     1.38    2098   100.0    42000    3077   1.529  
Hodgdon H4350                      107.0     32.6     2.11    2074    82.2    35262    4066   1.584
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                107.0     32.3     2.09    2068    88.8    32420    4202   1.616
Accurate 4100                       63.9     20.6     1.33    2048   100.0    42000    2863   1.530  
Vihtavuori N110                     74.7     19.7     1.28    2045   100.0    42000    2836   1.536  
Alliant 2400                        61.9     18.3     1.19    2041   100.0    42000    2824   1.530  
Ramshot Enforcer                    61.1     19.4     1.26    2030   100.0    42000    2787   1.542  
Lovex S040                          67.3     18.7     1.21    2017   100.0    42000    2740   1.529  
IMR 4831                           107.0     31.9     2.07    2017    84.8    28986    4185   1.682
Alliant Reloder-19                 107.0     33.3     2.16    2014    76.8    31684    4099   1.646
Accurate No.9                       55.6     18.4     1.19    1991   100.0    42000    2637   1.544  
Lovex D037.2                        55.1     18.4     1.19    1991   100.0    42000    2637   1.544  
Winchester Supreme 780             107.0     35.2     2.28    1980    76.0    32589    3905   1.653
Alliant BLUE DOT                    66.0     16.7     1.08    1962   100.0    42000    2555   1.557  
Norma MRP                          107.0     34.8     2.25    1950    73.5    27984    4221   1.735
IMR 4955 Enduron                   107.0     32.4     2.10    1949    74.2    31072    3717   1.679
Norma R123                          56.0     17.5     1.13    1945   100.0    42000    2493   1.606  
Lovex D037.1                        49.7     16.7     1.08    1944   100.0    42000    2459   1.566  
Accurate No.7                       50.0     16.7     1.08    1944   100.0    42000    2459   1.566  
Alliant Reloder-26                 107.0     35.8     2.32    1941    75.0    27273    4394   1.752
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   107.0     33.7     2.18    1940    71.6    30959    3752   1.690
IMR 7828 SSC                       107.0     34.2     2.22    1922    68.6    29818    3837   1.714
Vihtavuori N560                    107.0     34.1     2.21    1909    67.9    27564    3923   1.756
Alliant Reloder-22                 107.0     33.7     2.18    1908    71.4    26927    3961   1.768
Alliant POWER PISTOL                54.6     13.5     0.87    1893   100.0    42000    2361   1.579  
Vihtavuori 3N38                     62.4     15.9     1.03    1885   100.0    42000    2242   1.587  
Vihtavuori N105                     63.2     15.4     1.00    1872   100.0    42000    2193   1.607  
Alliant Reloder-23                 107.0     32.6     2.11    1861    77.8    24146    3947   1.843
Vihtavuori N160                    107.0     32.0     2.07    1857    71.8    27468    3443   1.765
Hodgdon H4831                      107.0     32.4     2.10    1853    68.8    27266    3511   1.769
Accurate MAGPRO                    107.0     35.4     2.30    1852    63.9    26252    3748   1.801
Winchester WXR                     107.0     33.0     2.14    1850    69.3    24860    3772   1.829
Accurate 3100                      107.0     33.3     2.16    1840    75.6    23356    3769   1.860
Vihtavuori N165                    107.0     33.0     2.14    1830    72.3    25663    3498   1.823
Lovex D036                          42.9     13.8     0.89    1827   100.0    42000    2126   1.618  
Accurate No.5                       42.9     13.8     0.89    1826   100.0    42000    2125   1.618  
Ramshot Magnum                     107.0     36.3     2.35    1805    66.6    26751    3557   1.816
IMR 7828                           107.0     32.4     2.10    1801    64.2    24970    3447   1.845
Hodgdon HS-6                        46.5     14.3     0.93    1780   100.0    42000    1967   1.638  
Alliant Reloder-25                 107.0     33.2     2.15    1773    67.6    22844    3552   1.907
Vihtavuori 3N37                     56.7     13.6     0.88    1764   100.0    42000    1936   1.647  
Hodgdon Longshot                    44.5     13.9     0.90    1762   100.0    42000    1921   1.648  
Ramshot True Blue                   44.1     14.0     0.91    1760   100.0    42000    1914   1.649  
IMR 7977 Enduron                   107.0     33.0     2.14    1759    60.5    27339    2965   1.825
Winchester 540                      43.4     13.9     0.90    1758   100.0    42000    1911   1.650  
Alliant HERCO                       64.8     12.7     0.82    1753   100.0    42000    1937   1.675  
Vihtavuori N350                     59.0     13.4     0.87    1753   100.0    42000    1894   1.650  
Alliant BULLSEYE                    52.6     10.9     0.70    1730   100.0    42000    1900   1.667  
Winchester WAP                      48.2     13.1     0.85    1727   100.0    42000    1848   1.665  
Ramshot Silhouette                  48.1     13.0     0.84    1724   100.0    42000    1841   1.667  
Alliant UNIQUE                      58.4     11.7     0.76    1723   100.0    42000    1851   1.685  
Lovex S071                         107.0     31.5     2.04    1718    71.2    19659    3424   2.002
Accurate No.2                       55.7     11.5     0.75    1693   100.0    42000    1744   1.702  
Vihtavuori N340                     57.9     12.0     0.78    1681   100.0    42000    1710   1.694  
Lovex S020                          53.5     11.6     0.75    1659   100.0    42000    1654   1.712  
Hodgdon Universal                   56.0     11.2     0.73    1654   100.0    42000    1683   1.731  
Hodgdon H1000                      107.0     33.0     2.14    1652    56.7    21806    2843   1.985
Vihtavuori N330                     55.2     11.2     0.73    1631   100.0    42000    1600   1.730  
Ramshot Zip                         44.1     11.6     0.75    1630   100.0    42000    1611   1.729  
Winchester 231                      49.1     11.6     0.75    1630   100.0    42000    1611   1.729  
Accurate Solo 1250                  60.7     11.3     0.73    1630   100.0    42000    1589   1.723  
Lovex D032                          40.5     10.6     0.69    1630   100.0    42000    1603   1.737  
Accurate Nitro 100                  61.4     10.0     0.65    1625   100.0    42000    1642   1.760  
Lovex D013                          61.4     10.0     0.65    1625   100.0    42000    1642   1.760  
Hodgdon HP38                        43.9     11.5     0.74    1623   100.0    42000    1592   1.733  
Maxam CSB 1                         63.9     11.7     0.76    1623   100.0    42000    1550   1.730  
Lovex S011                          51.7     10.9     0.71    1616   100.0    42000    1567   1.738  
Alliant GREEN DOT                   61.4     10.7     0.69    1614   100.0    42000    1592   1.767  
Lovex S015                          61.6     10.6     0.69    1599   100.0    42000    1552   1.772  
Accurate Solo 1000                  61.6     10.6     0.69    1599   100.0    42000    1552   1.772  
Alliant RED DOT                     64.2     10.0     0.65    1591   100.0    42000    1552   1.761  
Vihtavuori N320                     56.8     10.4     0.67    1585   100.0    42000    1492   1.759   


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Not leaving much on the table!


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Very interesting stuff! Quickload looks like a great tool. Thanks again. I can't think of any more questions at tis time. It's time to do some cautious trials. Shall I post results here?


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Heck yeah! Always interesting.


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