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Originally Posted by battue
FWIW:

Made in Portugal so you’re good. If you wanted a Winchester pump you wouldn’t be.

Winchester the company, cares less and makes money off of both countries. So buy the SX4 and you still contribute in some way to the Turks.

Politically I have issues with Germany. Which bothers me little when it comes to buying one of their shotguns. Same could be said for the Italians. Japan makes some good guns and Winchester makes some there. A country where individuals don’t have the right to own firearms. Politically, are you sure you want to buy anything from Winchester.


Politically I even have issues with the USA.

And it goes on and on.







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11-87 in 20 will be mild as you can get


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I can validate what those guys. Are saying on the 11-87 20 gauge being a soft kicker...

More importantly it’s light enough to lift easily, and doesn’t kick much... plus you can still put 3” shell in it.

I got one from the walmart end of year at a good price, and am suprised how it shoots.

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Shotgun fit is the one place that shell for shell and action type vs action type, mitigates felt recoil more than any other factor. Now felt recoil to the face may be completely different than actual recoil to the OP's shoulder.

After fit, gun weight, heavy vs light shot weight, and FPS are the significant factors. Changing to a 3in mag shell vs a light 2 3/4 is going the wrong way.

For me it would be anyone of the SA's that has shims to adjust fit, combined with a recoil system and then topped of with light loads. Magnum loads have been force fed for so long, most don't appreciate how efficient light loads are.

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