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or just get the tikka,caution i'm i big fan,and when you get it break it down and take barreled action outta the stock and eezox the heck outta it. never had rust issues with my tikkas,either blued or ss,since i do that. really never had an issue before but the eezox is supposed to bond with the metal which i believe it does as when you do eezox a blued gun and make a booboo and scratch it the metal won't accept cold blue that i've witnessed. a tikka t3x in 7mm rem mag would be a hard choice to beat for most things here in north america minus the big bears. Big Ed
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I have owned or still own about 12 Mark V's and only one in a Weatherby caliber, a 240 WM. I like the 6 lug action and all have been excellent in the accuracy department. I understand the whole Mark V should be in a Weatherby cartridge but if you want a 6.5 creed, 270 win, 308, etc and like the Mark V, then buy it. It will not disaapoint
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As others have stated owning a MKV it would have to be in a Wby chamber, preferably 257 Wby or 270 Wby. Either would supply classic fun and amazement.
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I will advise you when I get it. 30 more days Please do update when you get it. I'd be interested to hear the report. As others have stated owning a MKV it would have to be in a Wby chamber, preferably 257 Wby or 270 Wby. Either would supply classic fun and amazement. I'll pose the same questions as before. Why would it be such an abomination to get a MK V in a mainstream caliber, such as the 6.5 Creed I originally mentioned? Over the Vanguards, they have: -Better action -Better trigger -Cerakoted finish -Significantly lighter -Made in USA -22 v 24" barrel -Flush magazine floor plate So, is the heresy of my idea just because MK Vs "should be chambered in a proprietary Weatherby caliber?" Or am I missing something?
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I will advise you when I get it. 30 more days Please do update when you get it. I'd be interested to hear the report. As others have stated owning a MKV it would have to be in a Wby chamber, preferably 257 Wby or 270 Wby. Either would supply classic fun and amazement. I'll pose the same questions as before. Why would it be such an abomination to get a MK V in a mainstream caliber, such as the 6.5 Creed I originally mentioned? Over the Vanguards, they have: -Better action How is it better? I have a Six lug, the vanguard is smoother-Better trigger Look at the price, you can put a Timney on the Vanguard and save money -Cerakoted finish available on both models-Significantly lighter I f it is a six lug then yes-Made in USA Because Howa makes a crap product , I'll bet Weatherby gets a whole lot more US made guns back then Jap guns Their HOWA made Mark V's were the finest they ever produced. -22 v 24" barrel Wrong they are both 24-Flush magazine floor plate Again they are both flush So, is the heresy of my idea just because MK Vs "should be chambered in a proprietary Weatherby caliber?" Or am I missing something? That's why manufacturers make different variations, to keep everyone happy. It's your money why do you need us to reassure you ?
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I will advise you when I get it. 30 more days Please do update when you get it. I'd be interested to hear the report. As others have stated owning a MKV it would have to be in a Wby chamber, preferably 257 Wby or 270 Wby. Either would supply classic fun and amazement. I'll pose the same questions as before. Why would it be such an abomination to get a MK V in a mainstream caliber, such as the 6.5 Creed I originally mentioned? Over the Vanguards, they have: -Better action How is it better? I have a Six lug, the vanguard is smoother-Better trigger Look at the price, you can put a Timney on the Vanguard and save money -Cerakoted finish available on both models-Significantly lighter I f it is a six lug then yes-Made in USA Because Howa makes a crap product , I'll bet Weatherby gets a whole lot more US made guns back then Jap guns Their HOWA made Mark V's were the finest they ever produced. -22 v 24" barrel Wrong they are both 24-Flush magazine floor plate Again they are both flush So, is the heresy of my idea just because MK Vs "should be chambered in a proprietary Weatherby caliber?" Or am I missing something? That's why manufacturers make different variations, to keep everyone happy. It's your money why do you need us to reassure you ? I don't. I'm asking if there's any practical reason people keep saying "I'd only own one in a Weatherby caliber." You are incorrect about the barrel length. For 6.5 Creed, which I originally started the thread about, the MK V Weatherguard has a 22" barrel. Feel free to check it at the following link. You can, indeed, get a cerakoted Vanguard... which is called the backcountry, and has an MSRP over a thousand dollars. By the time I'm there, might as well just go with the MK V.
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I will advise you when I get it. 30 more days Please do update when you get it. I'd be interested to hear the report. As others have stated owning a MKV it would have to be in a Wby chamber, preferably 257 Wby or 270 Wby. Either would supply classic fun and amazement. I'll pose the same questions as before. Why would it be such an abomination to get a MK V in a mainstream caliber, such as the 6.5 Creed I originally mentioned? Over the Vanguards, they have: -Better action How is it better? I have a Six lug, the vanguard is smoother-Better trigger Look at the price, you can put a Timney on the Vanguard and save money -Cerakoted finish available on both models-Significantly lighter I f it is a six lug then yes-Made in USA Because Howa makes a crap product , I'll bet Weatherby gets a whole lot more US made guns back then Jap guns Their HOWA made Mark V's were the finest they ever produced. -22 v 24" barrel Wrong they are both 24-Flush magazine floor plate Again they are both flush So, is the heresy of my idea just because MK Vs "should be chambered in a proprietary Weatherby caliber?" Or am I missing something? That's why manufacturers make different variations, to keep everyone happy. It's your money why do you need us to reassure you ? I don't. I'm asking if there's any practical reason people keep saying "I'd only own one in a Weatherby caliber." You are incorrect about the barrel length. For 6.5 Creed, which I originally started the thread about, the MK V Weatherguard has a 22" barrel. Feel free to check it at the following link. You can, indeed, get a cerakoted Vanguard... which is called the backcountry, and has an MSRP over a thousand dollars. By the time I'm there, might as well just go with the MK V. Yes I generally buy Weatherby Mark V's so I can shoot Weatherby Cartridges . So far 240,270,7mm,300 and 340 in CM and SS and no issues except one poorly made 6 lug a very long time ago.. Yes I was incorrect about the barrel length but the Vanguard has a # 2 contour vs # 1 contour on the weathermark . I bet the Vanguard outshoots it handily. Vanguard also comes in 410 SS and is not CM coated like the weathermark. I would rather have the 410 SS any day of the week instead of overrated cerakote . Again Buy what you want it's your money.
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[ would it be such an abomination to get a MK V in a mainstream caliber, such as the 6.5 Creed Not only an abomination, but a flogging offense in that pocket T shirt of all calibers....
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i own 2 mark 5 Weatherby rifles both have a fiber type stock,i glass bedded and floated both barrels on my rifles and both shot better.
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I will advise you when I get it. 30 more days Please do update when you get it. I'd be interested to hear the report. As others have stated owning a MKV it would have to be in a Wby chamber, preferably 257 Wby or 270 Wby. Either would supply classic fun and amazement. I'll pose the same questions as before. Why would it be such an abomination to get a MK V in a mainstream caliber, such as the 6.5 Creed I originally mentioned? Over the Vanguards, they have: -Better action How is it better? I have a Six lug, the vanguard is smoother-Better trigger Look at the price, you can put a Timney on the Vanguard and save money -Cerakoted finish available on both models-Significantly lighter I f it is a six lug then yes-Made in USA Because Howa makes a crap product , I'll bet Weatherby gets a whole lot more US made guns back then Jap guns Their HOWA made Mark V's were the finest they ever produced. -22 v 24" barrel Wrong they are both 24-Flush magazine floor plate Again they are both flush So, is the heresy of my idea just because MK Vs "should be chambered in a proprietary Weatherby caliber?" Or am I missing something? That's why manufacturers make different variations, to keep everyone happy. It's your money why do you need us to reassure you ? I don't. I'm asking if there's any practical reason people keep saying "I'd only own one in a Weatherby caliber." You are incorrect about the barrel length. For 6.5 Creed, which I originally started the thread about, the MK V Weatherguard has a 22" barrel. Feel free to check it at the following link. You can, indeed, get a cerakoted Vanguard... which is called the backcountry, and has an MSRP over a thousand dollars. By the time I'm there, might as well just go with the MK V. just personally,and i've never owned a mark 5 action, i don't see the need for the mark 5 in that they are significantly heavier that the vanguard action and i've had great luck with the vanguard line also personally. IF wby offered their cals in the vanguard line i'd buy them vs the mark 5 still. their big selling point is the mark 5's strength. well, 2 lug actions handle some mule stompers too. so i guess i just don't buy the whole strength thing. i do like wby cals and would go with one if needed vs a new fangled wizzzzm or whatever that says they can duplicate velos. its just a personal thang bud. if you want the mark 5 to say you have a mark 5 then gooooo with it man. what i'm saying is that you won't get any benefits either perceived or real from the mark 5 in the 6.5cm. you just don't need all that mass for such a mild caliber. Big Ed
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A 6.5 Creedmoor will come in the slimmer 6 lug MkV. Is that one much heavier than the Vanguard?
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[ would it be such an abomination to get a MK V in a mainstream caliber, such as the 6.5 Creed Not only an abomination, but a flogging offense in that pocket T shirt of all calibers.... What about a MkV with 24" #2 Brux chambered for 7RM in a McWoody Wby Express and Timney trigger? Add a VX-6 2-12x42 in med LW Talley rings? DF
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[ would it be such an abomination to get a MK V in a mainstream caliber, such as the 6.5 Creed Not only an abomination, but a flogging offense in that pocket T shirt of all calibers.... What about a MkV with 24" #2 Brux chambered for 7RM in a McWoody Wby Express and Timney trigger? Add a VX-6 2-12x42 in med LW Talley rings? DF And when the bolt knob bumps the trigger finger, shooting off the bench, fix it so it doesn't. And, you can't see the cut from a lateral shot with bolt closed.
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A 6.5 Creedmoor will come in the slimmer 6 lug MkV. Is that one much heavier than the Vanguard? I have a six lug accumark with a #3 barrel and it weighs less then a Vanguard 7lbs 3 oz without a scope. My 9 lug accumark weighs 8 3/4 lbs without a scope.
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A 6.5 Creedmoor will come in the slimmer 6 lug MkV. Is that one much heavier than the Vanguard? There appears to be some general confusion about this. The MK V I started this thread originally about is between 8 and 30 ounces lighter than the Vanguard series, depending on model. This is another reason I am considering it as a well rounded, lightweight mountain rifle... which, evidently, is one step below Mossberg creating a tactical lever action in terms of firearms heresy
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On the lightweight 6 lug a 6.5 Creedmoor would make a nifty deer rifle, and I'd like it just to thumb my nose at the anti-Creed Luddites. It would also make a nice little brother for my 80's vintage 9 lug Deluxe in 300 Wby. with the 26" heavier contour barrel.
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I’ve had several, all shot well. this. Their custom Shop is building me a backcountry 240 bee with their new 7.5 twist barrel as we speak. 6 lug I have one in 6.5 bee rpm on order from their custom shop. Hope it’s a shooter!
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I’ve had several, all shot well. this. Their custom Shop is building me a backcountry 240 bee with their new 7.5 twist barrel as we speak. 6 lug I have one in 6.5 bee rpm on order from their custom shop. Hope it’s a shooter! It's gonna be interesting to see how the 6.5 RPM does in an already crowded 6.5 field. I'm thinking they need to follow the Hornady playbook regarding good brass at reasonable prices, etc. although that hasn't been their past practice. I think if they offered the RPM in the Vanguard, that would be a sales enhancing move. Ya reckon ole Roy would roll over in his grave, with this new, non belted, non venturi, non double radiused round wearing the Wby headstamp...? Hmmm.... DF
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I don`t think old Roy was impressed with any Vanguards either ? but old Roy would have liked the 6.5x300 Weatherby Mag. cartridge !
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I don`t think old Roy was impressed with any Vanguards either ? but old Roy would have liked the 6.5x300 Weatherby Mag. cartridge ! For sure the 6.5-300. But, I think that round was already a wildcat while he was still alive. That was before the 6.5 craze, or he'd have probably rolled it out back then, IMO. Roy would like the bottom line and I think he'd be respectful of the boys rising to the occasion, innovating, selling guns and ammo. Roy was a businessman. DF
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