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This fact always generates some blowback here on The ‘Fire, but it’s still a fact: Per BATFE regulation, the shipper (in this case the seller of the rifle) must disclose to the common carrier (UPS, USPS, Fedex or whomever) that they are shipping a firearm.
mrchongo, Always happy to learn - where do you see said requirement for usps? https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonlicensee-ship-firearm-through-us-postal-service“May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service? A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. [18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A); 27 CFR 478.31] Last Reviewed August 31, 2015” This fact always generates some blowback here on The ‘Fire, but it’s still a fact: Per BATFE regulation, the shipper (in this case the seller of the rifle) must disclose to the common carrier (UPS, USPS, Fedex or whomever) that they are shipping a firearm.
mrchongo, Always happy to learn - where do you see said requirement for usps? https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonlicensee-ship-firearm-through-us-postal-service“May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service? A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. [18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2 Last Reviewed August 31, 2015” 18 USC Section 923 paragraph (e) (e) It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly to deliver or cause to be delivered to any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce, to persons other than licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, or licensed collectors, any package or other container in which there is any firearm or ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or ammunition is being transported or shipped; except that any passenger who owns or legally possesses a firearm or ammunition being transported aboard any common or contract carrier for movement with the passenger in interstate or foreign commerce may deliver said firearm or ammunition into the custody of the pilot, captain, conductor or operator of such common or contract carrier for the duration of the trip without violating any of the provisions of this chapter. No common or contract carrier shall require or cause any label, tag, or other written notice to be placed on the outside of any package, luggage, or other container that such package, luggage, or other container contains a firearm. So it depends on whether we call USPS a contract carrier. Personally, I err on the side of caution and say ‘yes’. Your mileage may vary. No, it doesn't depend on that, it rides on reading comprehension. Read it again and again.
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"A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun."
The underlined language tells you USPS is not a common or contract carrier, and thus is not subject to common/contract carrier rules.
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Yes.
And to JT/girlhunter’s point ...
“18 USC Section 923 paragraph (e)
(e) It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly to deliver or cause to be delivered to any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce, to persons other than licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, or licensed collectors, ...”
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'It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly to deliver or cause to be delivered to any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce, to persons other than licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, or licensed collectors, any package or other container in which there is any firearm or ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or ammunition is being transported or shipped....'
Meaning: If you AREN'T sending your sheit to licensed importers, manufacturers, dealers or collectors, then you have to notify the common contract carrier.
Since everyone is pretty much shipping to an FFL, you ain't gotta tell the common contract carrier.
People really need a reading comprehension class.
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I usually save up carmel delight girl scout cookie boxes. I cut the ends out, tape them all together and slide the gun in. When the postmaster asks what this is I say, well duh! and walk out. Works every time.
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I usually save up carmel delight girl scout cookie boxes. I cut the ends out, tape them all together and slide the gun in. When the postmaster asks what this is I say, well duh! and walk out. Works every time. I have never had a USPS person ask what I was shipping. Bruce
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. . . I have never had a USPS person ask what I was shipping. Same here. That's because it is a violation of personal privacy, which the government is not allowed to do. Some may ask, but they are violating the law if they do, so knowledgeable USPS employees don't. USPS asking if it the contents are safe to ship is allowed, but they can't ask what the contents specifically are. Common/contract carriers are allowed to ask about specific contents because they a private entity not bound by the same regulations as USPS.
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I don't have a gun shop in town. Only a Pawn shop. I wouldn't do business with him if I were dying. I thought the most available box to me is a gun case still in its box from Walmart. I will see if a packing blanket or similar can be wrapped around the barreled action. It sounds like it will work. Thanks for all the data here. Be Well, Rustyzipper.
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