Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles What makes the creed better than a 260 or 270

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For hunting...nuthin. If you are a long range target shooter, the case design of the CM is better (they say) for the longer heavier high BC bullets than the 260 case. For thumping deer, the 270 is better than both at hunting distances. That’s my opinion from years of shooting deer and pigs. That said, I hunt with a 260 now. Lower recoil than the 270, a lighter rifle, and the 260 is plenty good enough for what I need. The load comparison is: a 120 gr bullet at 2800 in my 260 vs a 130 gr bullet at 3000 in my 270. Close enough.

I have a creed and a 270. Both have their place.

I think it’s just a new fad but I’m also a part of it.
The 270 is well proven but the 6.5 is very easy to shoot
I’m pushing 140s in 270 at 3050
And 130s at 2900 in the 6.5 and it’s easier to connect longer ranges
I’d have to look but I think after 500 yards the 6.5 catches up

No hunting benefit for the 6.5 CM. They are all good.

Match rifle competition? You have match grade bullets available in 6.5, but not in .270.

Wider variety of factory ammo, and more available for the creed. Also rifles are generally twisted properly for high BC bullets, case fits nicely in a short action.

Compared to 270 the 6.5 CM shoots the same bullet weights about 150-200 fps slower at the muzzle. Out to 400 yards or so the 270 still is moving faster and shooting about 1" flatter, but the 6.5 has almost made up the speed difference. The better sectional density of the 6.5 means better penetration with similar weight bullets and does it with about 30% less recoil. And I'd bet the odds are heavily in favor of the 6.5 being more accurate. The 6.5 isn't better, but close enough that no animal will ever know the difference.

The 260 was designed around 120 gr hunting bullets. Most will do well enough with bullets as heavy as 130 gr, but anything heavier may not be stable in barrels designed for shorter bullets. And the longer bullets must be seated so deep to fit in the magazines they take up powder space limiting muzzle velocity. The 6.5 CM was designed with 140-150 gr bullets in mind and shoots them much better.

Purely for hunting purposes there isn't much real difference and on paper at least the 270 is a little better. But the 6.5 gives up very little to the 270 and is the far better option for someone looking for a dual purpose rifle for both hunting and long range target shooting.

If you have one you have the others.

I shot a bunch of deer with the .270 (mostly 140 Bergers @ 2,910fps) and while it remains a sentimental favorite, my .260 slinging 147 ELD's at 2,750 has replaced it.

Just one mans opinion, but I think the .260/6.5 Creed is a dandy short action replacement for a .270 WCF.

Availability of cheap, reliable ammo. Guns built a properly twisted barrel from the factory. Would be all I could think of.

I have fun with the 6.5 Creed mentality but plan on buying one in the next year or so to try out.

Wide variety of very affordable and accurate factory ammo compared to the .260. Wide variety of very affordable and accurate factory rifles. About 2/3 the recoil of the recoil of the .270, yet with very similar effectiveness on big game.

All of which is why the 6.5 Creedmoor is very popular, especially those younger shooters who're buying new rifles.

Yes, & I’ve been told it’s 600 but that is AFTER 500.


It’s obvious I’m odd man out. I’m now officially 3score & ten y o and
I’m shooting & hunting my 7 RM more than 270 or 6.5 Swede.

Those & other cartridges ARE capable of 400 yd point & shoot BUT...

The 7 RM has a FLATTER trajectory than they AND that makes shot
placement easier.

NO ONE has to agree.......I’m confident & satisfied.

Jerry

With regard to improving shot placement, I’ll take less recoil over a flatter trajectory in almost every instance. But I like light rifles and dislike brakes ... and haven’t gotten around to a can yet.

A suppressed 6.5 Creedmoor is a beautiful thing.

Compared to the 260 marketing and product support and Ammo availability and choice. Something Remington doesn’t seem to understand.....

Compared to the 270 action length, weight, comparable performance and Ammo availability.

I like the Creed but liked my 260 better because I handloaded. Had my Mod70 270 converted to a 375 H&H!

"Better" is a loaded word. I can make a case (actually Mule Deer's case in an article he wrote) that up to 500 yards a 10" twist .270 actually can beat the 6.5 in drop, wind drift, and certainly energy, with 150 pointy bullets, albeit with more recoil. On my own I can argue it's a better timber rifle for big stuff like moose with 160s at 2800, if I ignore the data from the Swedes on their mini-moose. But for doing a bunch of the stuff shooters like these days, and doing it with ease and with off the shelf bits, the Creed looks pretty good, "Better" actually, and I don't even have one, unless you count the 6mm.

The .260 and the 6.5x47 and Swede etc. can do these things too, if you are willing to futz around with custom rifles and loading your own, but that's not "easy" in my book, nor off the shelf.

I am with jwall!!!!!

The imagination of 6.5 Creedmoor owners is better. In practicality, that's the only difference.

Cheaper ammo, since the manufacturers decided to bless it and not the other two.