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But for the record,
You reject natural law...
And you are pro globohomo?


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Originally Posted by Robert_White
No, my argument does not fail. You stand in total opposition to the Declaration and the founders who came to reject Thomas Paine's articulated atheism.



Again, you are just wrong, blinded by your bigotry.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by Robert_White
Natural law in the Christian tradition includes purpose and moral restraint.
Paul affirms it in Romans chapter one.
The inborn knowledge of conscience that one should not murder the innocent or steal or copulate with animals.

Thats all fine and dandy but what do you think?Is conscience given to man so he can overcome natures law?We all know what man is capable of.Good and bad are both natural.The difference is that man has a choice.Man is out of place here.He was not designed to be ruled by nature.To be the victim of his own humanity.Man was put here to choose. Man is more than an animal.

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This is a pretty sick thread. It needs to die!

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Originally Posted by jdm953
Originally Posted by Robert_White
Natural law in the Christian tradition includes purpose and moral restraint.
Paul affirms it in Romans chapter one.
The inborn knowledge of conscience that one should not murder the innocent or steal or copulate with animals.

Thats all fine and dandy but what do you think?Is conscience given to man so he can overcome natures law?We all know what man is capable of.Good and bad are both natural.The difference is that man has a choice.Man is out of place here.He was not designed to be ruled by nature.To be the victim of his own humanity.Man was put here to choose. Man is more than an animal.


Yes, and evidently some choose not to skip a space after posting a period, but your point is correct.


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And you are pro globohomo?




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Originally Posted by butchlambert1
This is a pretty sick thread. It needs to die!

Puffendorf, Thomas Jefferson and Blackstone are sick?
When were you born?


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Originally Posted by Robert_White
But for the record,
You reject natural law...
And you are pro globohomo?


I reject your interpretations, and think that the use of buzzwords like "globohomo" is indicative of your best efforts. Carry on w/ your mindless diatribes your disciples need your support.

But for the record...you are still pro NAMBLA?grin


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Natural law is not base savagery, or man ruled by fallen impulses.
Natural law is God's law revealed by nature and in nature. It is a moral restraint on all sin and evil.

https://www.nlnrac.org/node/244

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Originally Posted by Robert_White
Natural law is not base savagery, or man ruled by fallen impulses.
Natural law is God's law revealed by nature and in nature. It is a moral restraint on all sin and evil.



Prove it.



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Originally Posted by Robert_White
Originally Posted by butchlambert1
This is a pretty sick thread. It needs to die!

Puffendorf, Thomas Jefferson and Blackstone are sick?
When were you born?


Butch is 10 times the man you will ever be. You should listen to him.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by Robert_White
Natural law is not base savagery, or man ruled by fallen impulses.
Natural law is God's law revealed by nature and in nature. It is a moral restraint on all sin and evil.

https://www.nlnrac.org/node/244



You are a sick Motha forker!

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This will of his maker is called the law of nature. For as God, when he created matter, and endued it with a principle of mobility, established certain rules for the perpetual direction of that motion; so, when he created man, and endued him with freewill to conduct himself in all parts of life, he laid down cer­tain immutable laws of human nature, whereby that freewill is in some degree regulated and restrained, and gave him also the faculty of reason to discover the purport of those laws.
Blackstone


This is what the founders studied and believed

Locke and his theory of natural rights is rooted in his affirmation of natural law.
Natural law/rights are the foundation of our 2nd ammendment.


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Originally Posted by Robert_White
This will of his maker is called the law of nature. For as God, when he created matter, and endued it with a principle of mobility, established certain rules for the perpetual direction of that motion; so, when he created man, and endued him with freewill to conduct himself in all parts of life, he laid down cer­tain immutable laws of human nature, whereby that freewill is in some degree regulated and restrained, and gave him also the faculty of reason to discover the purport of those laws.
Blackstone


This is what the founders studied and believed

Locke and his theory of natural rights is rooted in his affirmation of natural law.
Natural law/rights are the foundation of our 2nd ammendment.



I will pray for you as you really need it, but I'm out of this sick thread.
Merry Christmas to all

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Robert_White
Originally Posted by butchlambert1
This is a pretty sick thread. It needs to die!

Puffendorf, Thomas Jefferson and Blackstone are sick?
When were you born?


Butch is 10 times the man you will ever be. You should listen to him.


Your estimation of what a true man is, is of no interest to me.
Rejection of at least a thousand years of well developed thought on natural law is manly?
Grotius, Puffendorf, Aquinas, Locke, Jefferson...
These are the men you are calling sick.


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Originally Posted by Robert_White
This will of his maker is called the law of nature. Unsupported Assertion

For as God, when he created matter, Unsupported Assertion
and endued it with a principle of mobility, Unsupported Assertion
established certain rules for the perpetual direction of that motion; Unsupported Assertion
so, when he created man, Unsupported Assertion
and endued him with freewill to conduct himself in all parts of life, Unsupported Assertion
he laid down cer­tain immutable laws of human nature, Unsupported Assertion
whereby that freewill is in some degree regulated and restrained, Unsupported Assertion
and gave him also the faculty of reason to discover the purport of those laws.Unsupported Assertion
Blackstone Appear to Authority
.


If you wish to appeal to a supernatural force, you must first demonstrate that is exists.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by Robert_White
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Robert_White
Originally Posted by butchlambert1
This is a pretty sick thread. It needs to die!

Puffendorf, Thomas Jefferson and Blackstone are sick?
When were you born?


Butch is 10 times the man you will ever be. You should listen to him.


Your estimation of what a true man is, is of no interest to me.
Rejection of at least a thousand years of well developed thought on natural law is manly?
Grotius, Puffendorf, Aquinas, Locke, Jefferson...
These are the men you are calling sick.


I didn't call any of them sick.

I calling a bigot.

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You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by butchlambert1
Originally Posted by Robert_White
This will of his maker is called the law of nature. For as God, when he created matter, and endued it with a principle of mobility, established certain rules for the perpetual direction of that motion; so, when he created man, and endued him with freewill to conduct himself in all parts of life, he laid down cer­tain immutable laws of human nature, whereby that freewill is in some degree regulated and restrained, and gave him also the faculty of reason to discover the purport of those laws.
Blackstone


This is what the founders studied and believed

Locke and his theory of natural rights is rooted in his affirmation of natural law.
Natural law/rights are the foundation of our 2nd ammendment.



I will pray for you as you really need it, but I'm out of this sick thread.
Merry Christmas to all

You are going to pray that I reject natural law and affirm what in its place?
Spare me your misguided intercession to the Almighty.

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Robert_White
This will of his maker is called the law of nature. Unsupported Assertion

For as God, when he created matter, Unsupported Assertion
and endued it with a principle of mobility, Unsupported Assertion
established certain rules for the perpetual direction of that motion; Unsupported Assertion
so, when he created man, Unsupported Assertion
and endued him with freewill to conduct himself in all parts of life, Unsupported Assertion
he laid down cer­tain immutable laws of human nature, Unsupported Assertion
whereby that freewill is in some degree regulated and restrained, Unsupported Assertion
and gave him also the faculty of reason to discover the purport of those laws.Unsupported Assertion
Blackstone Appear to Authority
.


If you wish to appeal to a supernatural force, you must first demonstrate that is exists.


In rejecting Blacksone you reject the Founding Fathers.
Please admit this openly.


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Originally Posted by Robert_White
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Robert_White
This will of his maker is called the law of nature. Unsupported Assertion

For as God, when he created matter, Unsupported Assertion
and endued it with a principle of mobility, Unsupported Assertion
established certain rules for the perpetual direction of that motion; Unsupported Assertion
so, when he created man, Unsupported Assertion
and endued him with freewill to conduct himself in all parts of life, Unsupported Assertion
he laid down cer­tain immutable laws of human nature, Unsupported Assertion
whereby that freewill is in some degree regulated and restrained, Unsupported Assertion
and gave him also the faculty of reason to discover the purport of those laws.Unsupported Assertion
Blackstone Appear to Authority
.


If you wish to appeal to a supernatural force, you must first demonstrate that is exists.


In rejecting Blacksone you reject the Founding Fathers.
Please admit this openly.



I've done no such think. I didn't "reject Blackstone", I demonstrated the flaws of this particular line of argument. Accepting his positions is not all "all or nothing" proposition, each of his positions must stand or fall on their own merit. This particular argument stands on nothing and fails it's burden of proof by every standard.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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