Lots of articles about this lately. Does anyone have one yet?
Will there be any PSA type uppers available soon?
It does more of what I would like to do with an AR tan a .300 ACC Blackout so I am very interested.
Dancing Bear, I bought one in July, Plain & simple " I love it" and I am not a big AR fan. Easy to load for, make your own brass or buy factory stuff, Wilson Combat has already worked out loads for the gun and they work or they do in my gun. Daniel
wilson originally recommended i try the 130gr hot core for pigs. i went through hundreds of them and found them to be good killers. like most folks, i still wondered if there was something better. i tried many bullets and really liked the speed of the 110s. my buddy and i are currently shooting 125tnt, as in the vid below. hard for me to say one kills any better than the other. they have all downed hogs out to several hundred yards. granted those shots were luck, but we still take them. never know when one will result in another hog down.
Personally, I think 150s are too heavy for this class cartridge - they eat up too much powder space. I'd save them for 30/30 or above. I would not go heavier than 130gr or maybe 135gr. That's just my preference. About the longest bullet I want to use is a 125gr Nosler BT.
I'd give these a try. I can't recommend them expansion-wise, because MS doesn't tell you what they really are. https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/00285s30192/30-caliber-point308-diameter-125-grain-hollow-point-wcannelure-100-count-(blemished)
Here's some 135gr flat bases that may work. https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/00285s3027/30-caliber-point308-diameter-135-grain-flexible-tipped-wcannelure-100-count-box-(blemished)
I ordered some of 110gr SPs and 125gr HPs, but I don’t see the 110s listed anymore. Sold out already?
I thought about these, but I was thinking cheap: https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/00285s30191/30-caliber-point308-diameter-110-grain-lead-free-poly-tipped-boat-tail-wcannelure-50-count-(blemished)
Personally, I think 150s are too heavy for this class cartridge - they eat up too much powder space. I'd save them for 30/30 or above. I would not go heavier than 130gr or maybe 135gr. That's just my preference. About the longest bullet I want to use is a 125gr Nosler BT.
I'd give these a try. I can't recommend them expansion-wise, because MS doesn't tell you what they really are. https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/00285s30192/30-caliber-point308-diameter-125-grain-hollow-point-wcannelure-100-count-(blemished)
Here's some 135gr flat bases that may work. https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/00285s3027/30-caliber-point308-diameter-135-grain-flexible-tipped-wcannelure-100-count-box-(blemished)
Tyrone
I beg to differ with you on your opinion of 150gr bullets. Personally I've found 150gr bullets such as the Hornady SST and Speer Gold Dot to be capable of taking some very large game such as Elk, Kudu, Wildebeest, Waterbuck and Zebra. Also if you run the #s on one of the ballistic programs you will find that a 150gr at 2300fps shoots flatter at 200-250yds than a 125gr at 2500fps due to the higher BC.
Also the Nosler 125gr BT or AB bullets are not compatible with the 300 HAM'R, they have to much of their weight at the base and the ogive is wrong resulting is them taking up too much powder space and poor accuracy due to the long jump the bullet has to make to the rifling.
Personally, I think 150s are too heavy for this class cartridge - they eat up too much powder space. I'd save them for 30/30 or above. I would not go heavier than 130gr or maybe 135gr. That's just my preference. About the longest bullet I want to use is a 125gr Nosler BT.
I'd give these a try. I can't recommend them expansion-wise, because MS doesn't tell you what they really are. https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/00285s30192/30-caliber-point308-diameter-125-grain-hollow-point-wcannelure-100-count-(blemished)
Here's some 135gr flat bases that may work. https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/00285s3027/30-caliber-point308-diameter-135-grain-flexible-tipped-wcannelure-100-count-box-(blemished)
Tyrone
I beg to differ with you on your opinion of 150gr bullets. Personally I've found 150gr bullets such as the Hornady SST and Speer Gold Dot to be capable of taking some very large game such as Elk, Kudu, Wildebeest, Waterbuck and Zebra. Also if you run the #s on one of the ballistic programs you will find that a 150gr at 2300fps shoots flatter at 200-250yds than a 125gr at 2500fps due to the higher BC.
Also the Nosler 125gr BT or AB bullets are not compatible with the 300 HAM'R, they have to much of their weight at the base and the ogive is wrong resulting is them taking up too much powder space and poor accuracy due to the long jump the bullet has to make to the rifling.
BW,
What are you considering too long a jump with the NBT's.
The shoot well for me with some very long jumps.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
Have you tried the Lapua 155 Scenar? How’s that work?
I haven't seen or tried this bullet, but it looks like the nose is too long and pointed to work well. The only polymer tip bullets that I've tried that works well is the #30303 Hornady SST and the 110gr V-MAX
Also haven't tried the Lapua Scenar, but I think you will have the same issue.
Basically all of the really pointed bullets end up seating the .308 dia of the bullet below the case mouth to stay under 2.260" for magazine fit which also forces the bullet to have quite a jump to the rifling which usually kills accuracy. This also makes them take up a lot of powder space.
Didn't I post my 31 suitable bullet list with COL #s on this thread at some point? With 31 choices surely everyone can find a bullet choice to meet their need.....
Which thermals have been best for you in bad conditions....humidity, warmer temps, drizzle, etc?
i've only used a few thermals but none that i've seen work well in high humidity or drizzle. moisture isn't a good conductor of heat. i don't really know but i'd guess that a larger obj dia might allow for more thermal waves to enter, like light and a large obj lens. of course other factors must certainly play a role, like magnification and quality of glass??
here is an old vid from when it was raining. visibility was so bad i literally walked right up to the hay bales these hogs were destroying. when there's that much water in the air you can't tell the ground from the sky.
Basically all of the really pointed bullets end up seating the .308 dia of the bullet below the case mouth to stay under 2.260" for magazine fit which also forces the bullet to have quite a jump to the rifling which usually kills accuracy. This also makes them take up a lot of powder space.
Didn't I post my 31 suitable bullet list with COL #s on this thread at some point? With 31 choices surely everyone can find a bullet choice to meet their need.....
BW,
I'm more of a "why" guy then a list guy. Your description above nicely explains your list.
Thanks.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
Basically all of the really pointed bullets end up seating the .308 dia of the bullet below the case mouth to stay under 2.260" for magazine fit which also forces the bullet to have quite a jump to the rifling which usually kills accuracy. This also makes them take up a lot of powder space.
Didn't I post my 31 suitable bullet list with COL #s on this thread at some point? With 31 choices surely everyone can find a bullet choice to meet their need.....
BW,
I'm more of a "why" guy then a list guy. Your description above nicely explains your list.
Thanks.
What's the water volume of an empty case?
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You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell