Are "normative ethics" similar to obscenity in that......
I don't know what they are but " I know them when I see them"?
In other words, what is normal (and ethical) for me, given the society and family I was raised in, may not be normal to those raised in a different society/family? (.eg. "Drug Lords and Dictators" )
Geno
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
Tyrone, merry Christmas, your use of the term normative ethics is so obviously misapplied as to make you appear deranged. Apparently you couldn't restrain your self from exploding into your diatribe long enough to read the last line of my post. I will add that I was in LE and smote a few w/ great vigor.
So, we should smite the homeless or not? Drug addicts? Dealers? Pornographers? If I was a pornographer, would I want you to smite me? Who's the authority on this?
Apparently you are?
mike r
You're the one claiming to be the authority on everything. What authority do you recognize as superior to your own? You are Mike the Christ, right?
You have the same problem with Christianity. There's over 30,000 sects, each with their own moral teachings. Let me remind you, Nancy Pelosi's a Catholic. Most Christians let their women speak in church, and don't require them to cover their hair. Christians can't even agree on Homosexuality.
There's only one church founded by Christ with the fullness of His teaching authority. The Catholic church. I'll let you decide which one culturally fits you the best, the basic teachings are all but identical. The authority of the Pope is the biggest difference of any significance between them.
Nancy Pelosi isn't practicing Catholic teaching in a lot of her views. For instance, she doesn't follow Church teaching on abortion so blaming that on the Church is putting the cart before the horse. You certainly wouldn't explain Hindu teaching by pointing out a Hindu cattle processor as an example, would you?
You have the same problem with Christianity. There's over 30,000 sects, each with their own moral teachings. Let me remind you, Nancy Pelosi's a Catholic. Most Christians let their women speak in church, and don't require them to cover their hair. Christians can't even agree on Homosexuality.
There's only one church founded by Christ with the fullness of His teaching authority. The Catholic church. I'll let you decide which one culturally fits you the best, the basic teachings are all but identical. The authority of the Pope is the biggest difference of any significance between them.
Nancy Pelosi isn't practicing Catholic teaching in a lot of her views. For instance, she doesn't follow Church teaching on abortion so blaming that on the Church is putting the cart before the horse. You certainly wouldn't explain Hindu teaching by pointing out a Hindu cattle processor as an example, would you?
The pope has no authority, it heaven or earth.
You can't have it both ways. Either he is worth listening to or not. You either acknowledge his "authority" and hope your leaders listen. Or you don't.
If it's pointed out the head pedo is a socialist fugstik then you say "nobody is saying the world leaders should do as he says, it's just guidance he's speaking on a spiritual level, he's above day to day realities of running a country"
Are "normative ethics" similar to obscenity in that......
I don't know what they are but " I know them when I see them"?
In other words, what is normal (and ethical) for me, given the society and family I was raised in, may not be normal to those raised in a different society/family? (.eg. "Drug Lords and Dictators" )
Geno
No.
As I mentioned before, it's not a one way street, and the delima must be considered from all side, that of drug dealer, victim, and user, parent of user, and the gun owners who share space in the same society with the drug dealer, and users, but do not participate directly from either side.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
Tyrone, merry Christmas, your use of the term normative ethics is so obviously misapplied as to make you appear deranged. Apparently you couldn't restrain your self from exploding into your diatribe long enough to read the last line of my post. I will add that I was in LE and smote a few w/ great vigor.
So, we should smite the homeless or not? Drug addicts? Dealers? Pornographers? If I was a pornographer, would I want you to smite me? Who's the authority on this?
Apparently you are?
mike r
You're the one claiming to be the authority on everything. What authority do you recognize as superior to your own? You are Mike the Christ, right?
I see you missed the part where he's a former police officer.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
You have the same problem with Christianity. There's over 30,000 sects, each with their own moral teachings. Let me remind you, Nancy Pelosi's a Catholic. Most Christians let their women speak in church, and don't require them to cover their hair. Christians can't even agree on Homosexuality.
There's only one church founded by Christ with the fullness of His teaching authority. The Catholic church. I'll let you decide which one culturally fits you the best, the basic teachings are all but identical. The authority of the Pope is the biggest difference of any significance between them.
Nancy Pelosi isn't practicing Catholic teaching in a lot of her views. For instance, she doesn't follow Church teaching on abortion so blaming that on the Church is putting the cart before the horse. You certainly wouldn't explain Hindu teaching by pointing out a Hindu cattle processor as an example, would you?
First, I don't accept your assertion that any organization was founded by a being you would call Christ/God/Lord/Father/ etc. I see a lot of men attempting to claim the right to enforce their interpretation of their favored myths, be them Hinduisms, Islam, Christian, or Peruvian pagans praying to the mountain gods. Your favored myth just happens to be a particularly homophobic version of Christianity, a bias that you are unable to explain beyond claims "god says so". Since you have no good evidence for your alleged god, you have no moral system.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
Hey Tyrone, while the title "mike the christ" , with which you have annoited me is, one of the kinder I have received I am slightly less than perfect. You had better confer W/ criscoe, rw and trh as they are the arbiters of religous purity and affiliation on the CF.
LMFAO, what a goon.
mike r
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Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that. Craig Douglas ECQC
You have the same problem with Christianity. There's over 30,000 sects, each with their own moral teachings. Let me remind you, Nancy Pelosi's a Catholic. Most Christians let their women speak in church, and don't require them to cover their hair. Christians can't even agree on Homosexuality.
There's only one church founded by Christ with the fullness of His teaching authority. The Catholic church.
I used to be a Catholic. I think you need to read "Fox's Book of Marters.". The church became a polical organization which lost its way.
I gave up on the church, but didn't give up on God.
"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation." Everyday Hunter
Hey Tyrone, while the title "mike the christ" , with which you have annoited, me is one of the kinder I have received I am slightly less than perfect. You had better confer W/ criscoe, rw and trh as they are the arbiters of religous purity and affiliation on the CF.
LMFAO, what a goon.
mike r
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You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
