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Absolutely gorgeous dog Grand! Nice pic! Wow!

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Breeder is the belgian "kurzhaar" club's president. His dogs are really fine ones.

that breed earns more attention from the hunters than it recieves.

Most of the upland hunters around here use britain spaniels ... probably because they're easier to find and to train.


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In America the dog would lose points for the soft tail and stance, but she's colored the way I them best, has a great looking muzzle and head not pointy like some. Good deep chest.

Pretty dog.

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not a soft tail, in fact she wasn't hunting on that picture, she just discovered with her nose that some cat was lying in the high grass of the neihbour's horse prairie ... wink

See her pointing attitude on a pheasant or other true games she usually hunts (pheasants, partridges, woodcocks, foxes, hares and rabbits. She also usually points roe deer when hunting woodcock in december):

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in fact her tail can be a usefil indicator about what she points wink

Note that cutting the tails is now forbidden in Begium. Every dog born since january 2005 has now a full length tail.

I think GSP's from french breeders usually have more pointy noses, because they introduced english pointer blood at some time in the breed, probably to improve field trial results. Original GSP are more all terrain gun dogs than pointers and i do prefer them that way.

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Absolutely the tail is an indicator of what's in front!My 12 yr. old GSP indicates what it is by the tail too. With pheasants which he hates the intensity is amazing he quivers from tail to snout and leans into the point hard while the fur on the end of his tail fluffs up laugh It doesn't do that for quail or prairie grouse of partridge just pheasants. His tail tends to be lower on planted birds or cats.

Too bad about the tails, a full length tail is a bloody mess at the end of the season and it just doesn't look right.

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Harold,All,

Is this what you guys are talking about?

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that's what i call gun dogs ;-)


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i would like to give it a big hug ...

is the head not totally brown ?


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grand_veneur,

No, she has a small white patch at her nose on one side. It looks almost like someone spilled a drop or two of bleach that ran down behind her nose. It looks almost like a small question mark.

Other than that, he head is all brown.

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Oh a real cutie! The bird dog bump is well evident at the back of the skull, big ears and paws. What about 12-14 weeks in those photos? Very nice.

If you like GSP's take a look at the fantastic dogs at www.honeyrunshorthairs.com show and field champions in the same dogs. One from there has won the NASTRA invitational- the top versitile dog in the USA.

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Planemech, grand veneur,

She is 9 weeks old. She's a handful, but coming along.

gran veneur,

This pix shows the white question mark a bit better.

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will make a beautiful dog !

seeing lots of pictures from NA GSP's, i find your dogs are more "white" than ours.

i see darker dogs here, sometimes totally brown or black but always with less white.


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True in some lines, there is some evidence of a similar tactic to those used by the French, with the introduction of pointer in recent history. I prefer them darker, my dog is very close to the coloration of yours.

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She looks like she'll go large for breed standard and she will darken up. The greyish cast to the white she has now is the tip off. My boy was that way and he's more ticked than white by a good margin.

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Originally Posted by Planemech
True in some lines, there is some evidence of a similar tactic to those used by the French, with the introduction of pointer in recent history. I prefer them darker, my dog is very close to the coloration of yours.


according to our standard description, when dog is two-colored, background color should not be brown, nor white, nor more white than brown or more brown than white but such a mix that you could not tell if hairs are white or brown.

this is a weak point when hunting woodland: you've got a true "camo" dog, not easy to spot.


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The dog will have a majority liver head and may be white to heavily ticked- the mottled like your dog to all liver. Black seems to be a rage color now, while they can be registered they cannot be shown with black as any part of the coloration, they may be field trialed though.

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sorry about the names of the colors. My english is not so rich, i simply use brown, dark or black. I didn't know "liver" could also be used as a color name.


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I have hunted with a dark coated GSP quite a bit. The dog was superb. She has just passed on due we think to a Vet error.

The night before last in Southern Vermont the temperature hit 41F and we had a fire going for much of the weekend also. I have seen that GSP get cramped up from being wet and cold. I don't think that it had a thick enough coat for late CT hunting let alone Vermont.

I would get a lighter colored dog with more hair.

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