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I've noticed that the "rated" temps on bags, only means what you should be able to survive in. Not be comfortable in. Haven't tried these but, there has been some good reviews from people I know that have. https://www.wiggys.com/by-temperature-rating/It's called the ISO (International Standards Organization) rating. It more or less insures that every company using it tests bags the same way so comparisons have some meaning. It still can't account for what the user wears to bed or for how warm individuals sleep, but it's a decent comparison and the most accurate you can likely get.
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Past prime, and mediocre at peak. Never led past WI4 and Hyalite WI4 at that. Was up there years ago, but in summer. Seems like there were some pretty good gullies. There's 80+ deg angle water ice at Hyalite?? Above Temple Lake? One pitch waterfalls? Wall seeps? Up in the canyon or gully ice? Canyon looks steep in places. Glad you experienced it.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Past prime, and mediocre at peak. Never led past WI4 and Hyalite WI4 at that. Was up there years ago, but in summer. Seems like there were some pretty good gullies. There's 80+ deg angle water ice at Hyalite?? Above Temple Lake? One pitch waterfalls? Wall seeps? Up in the canyon or gully ice? Canyon looks steep in places. Glad you experienced it. We have this here every year: https://bozemanicefest.com/
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Past prime, and mediocre at peak. Never led past WI4 and Hyalite WI4 at that. Was up there years ago, but in summer. Seems like there were some pretty good gullies. There's 80+ deg angle water ice at Hyalite?? Above Temple Lake? One pitch waterfalls? Wall seeps? Up in the canyon or gully ice? Canyon looks steep in places. Glad you experienced it. Dozens and dozens of established routes. The biggest perk of Hyalite is the accessibility of moderate ice. The biggest downside is there are precious few multi-pitch opportunities.
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I've noticed that the "rated" temps on bags, only means what you should be able to survive in. Not be comfortable in. Haven't tried these but, there has been some good reviews from people I know that have. https://www.wiggys.com/by-temperature-rating/I have one that is rated to 0. It is not a warm bag, and below 20* you will freeze your butt off. It is built well, and is light, and I use it on my sept. hunts,but later in the season I go to a warmer bag.
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Best four season bag out there. Good to below zero and less than 600 clams if you can... What's your height, weight, and chest girth? Down or synthetic? Where is the intended use (mostly)? Aside, there is no "best"... 5 11...190...Never measured but pretty wide shoulder and chest....Down...Montana Wyoming and Utah mostly, and in the mountains. I have camped below 0 lots of times just looking for what works best for others.
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It’s a couple hundred bucks more than your target, but I cannot say enough good about the Western Mountaineering Sequoia MF. Proves it’s value late August in the Brooks Range/ANWR. Several nights about 20* and it was toasty, am sure comfortable well below that. Bought it at Hermit Hut in CA, free shipping and free overfill. I’d do it again in a heartbeat.
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I've noticed that the "rated" temps on bags, only means what you should be able to survive in. Not be comfortable in. Haven't tried these but, there has been some good reviews from people I know that have. https://www.wiggys.com/by-temperature-rating/I have one that is rated to 0. It is not a warm bag, and below 20* you will freeze your butt off. It is built well, and is light, and I use it on my sept. hunts,but later in the season I go to a warmer bag. I have a 20* a 0* and just bought my son a 20* for Christmas. I’ve had my 20* for ten years IIRC, and my 0* for half that. I use the 20* year-round, including winter camping into the 20’s inside a four season tent and on a good pad. I wear thermals to bed (mostly to keep the bag cleaner) and throw whatever outer layer I took off over the leg end of the bag. I sleep toasty, and feel like the rating is honest. The bags are well built and tough, and my only complaint is compressibility. The frameless pack gram weenies would never buy my bags. I bought the 0* bag on sale for extreme cold, and as a backup loaner in case I could ever talk my aging dad into a basic car camping trip. It’s still unslept in because my 20* is serving me without fault. I also love my Wiggys vest enough that I bought a backup, even though my first one still looks basically new after several years of consistent use. I’m not a “fan boy,” and don’t know Jerry personally. I just shop hard for the gear that I can afford and that will serve my needs. So far, I’m very happy with what I’ve bought from Wiggys. YMMV.
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