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Did the model F in 284 ever have a lever safety or were they just available with the tang safety and the ugly gold trigger?

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No, and yes. You could buy one in a DE or PE. Thems not ugly too bad.


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Thanks but only interested in the model F

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284F only came from the factory with tang safety and gold trigger.

Having said that, there is probably one out there to prove me wrong.


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Originally Posted by 99guy
284F only came from the factory with tang safety and gold trigger.

Having said that, there is probably one out there to prove me wrong.



By memory, my cut checkered 1964 99F may not have a gold trigger, but it definitely has the tang safety. I'd have to check to be sure.


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I have pics of 3 99F 284s in the 1073xxx to 1075xxx, 2 have cut checkering, 1 has double-diamond pressed, all 3 have a gold trigger.

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And the 284 F receiver was different in much of it's design, so I'd be very doubtful of any factory made with lever safety.


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You know, I have said time and again that the only post-mil I would want would be a .250 99A carbine. All this talk about .284's has me revising that thought. Always been intrigued by the caliber, but never owned a gun with which to shoot it.


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Gary, the mighty 284 absolutely smashes whatever I've shot with it. It really gets the job done muy pronto with the Speer 145 grain btsp. Here's one train wreck piled up in a rock slide, from a 364 yard head shot! Nothing to be afraid of when carrying a 99 in 284.


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That poor guy don't know if he was coming or going.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2


Gary, the mighty 284 absolutely smashes whatever I've shot with it. It really gets the job done muy pronto with the Speer 145 grain btsp. Here's one train wreck piled up in a rock slide, from a 364 yard head shot! Nothing to be afraid of when carrying a 99 in 284.


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Whoa! "Goldfinger-ahhh"! smile


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Originally Posted by deerstalker
That poor guy don't know if he was coming or going.


The hand of the Savage God did surely smite the unwitting beast.


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Please tell me you weren't aiming for his butt.


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And don't think a 284 won't work just as well kickin em outa their bed.



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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Whoa! "Goldfinger-ahhh"! smile


Or “Goldfingahhh”

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Those are some impressive blacktails killed with any caliber. The one on the rockslide looks a little bruised, but rack looks like it survived. shocked

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Looks like I can take the DL284 as backup on the Wyoming mule deer hunt rather than the 300 Weatherby. I used 140 gr. Nosler Accubonds on the elk. I'll have to try the Speer 145 gr. BTSP and see if I can get a good group with them.


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Originally Posted by wyo1895
Looks like I can take the DL284 as backup on the Wyoming mule deer hunt rather than the 300 Weatherby. I used 140 gr. Nosler Accubonds on the elk. I'll have to try the Speer 145 gr. BTSP and see if I can get a good group with them.


David get me your address if you want to try that bullet I'll get you some.


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Originally Posted by SS336
Those are some impressive blacktails killed with any caliber. The one on the rockslide looks a little bruised, but rack looks like it survived. shocked

Nope, split his head like a pumpkin. Rack is in two pieces.


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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Please tell me you weren't aiming for his butt.


I had watched him for a while trying to decide whether or not to shoot at him while he worked his way towards the timber. Mostly just waiting to see if there was a bigger buck behind him. Before I knew it he was in the brush so I took what I had, which was head shot. Not my first choice but I got lucky this time.


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I've made a convert or two to the mighty 284. One I can think of a friend and I were out quad riding one day with his son and my wife. We stopped to eat lunch and do some shooting as is our custom. When I emptied my soda I jumped on the quad and ran the empty can down the canyon a ways and set it up on a logging landing.When I came back I could make out a shiny spot in the sun, but not much else. It was 426 yards using a rangefinder. My buddy was carrying his dads old 7 mag and he wanted to take a shot at it. His shot was a foot low and left. He didn't want any more of that so I sat down on the ground, leaning up against the four wheeler tire, and used the shooting sticks to steady the .284.

I held for 17" of elevation and let er rip. At the shot the can went straight up in the air, about 35'! It was like slow motion when it reached the top it seemed to hang there, then drifted back to the ground, landing a few yards away from where it started. We all sat there in silence for a minute, then I slowly got up and slipped the rifle into the scabbard. I tried to look cool like, "Oh yeah, happens all the time" but we all had a good laugh.

What a show the old .284 put on that day, but it does have a habit of doing that. It's a fantastic cartridge and that Speer bullet really makes it a hammer. Mines killed a few deer and bear and each time it's like the hand of God. I can't say enough about the 99 in a 284. I think I have 5 of them now!


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Damn. This makes me want a 284

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Originally Posted by Fireball2
I've made a convert or two to the mighty 284. One I can think of a friend and I were out quad riding one day with his son and my wife. We stopped to eat lunch and do some shooting as is our custom. When I emptied my soda I jumped on the quad and ran the empty can down the canyon a ways and set it up on a logging landing.When I came back I could make out a shiny spot in the sun, but not much else. It was 426 yards using a rangefinder. My buddy was carrying his dads old 7 mag and he wanted to take a shot at it. His shot was a foot low and left. He didn't want any more of that so I sat down on the ground, leaning up against the four wheeler tire, and used the shooting sticks to steady the .284.

I held for 17" of elevation and let er rip. At the shot the can went straight up in the air, about 35'! It was like slow motion when it reached the top it seemed to hang there, then drifted back to the ground, landing a few yards away from where it started. We all sat there in silence for a minute, then I slowly got up and slipped the rifle into the scabbard. I tried to look cool like, "Oh yeah, happens all the time" but we all had a good laugh.

What a show the old .284 put on that day, but it does have a habit of doing that. It's a fantastic cartridge and that Speer bullet really makes it a hammer. Mines killed a few deer and bear and each time it's like the hand of God. I can't say enough about the 99 in a 284. I think I have 5 of them now!



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I'm going to the big city (Rock Springs) in a few minutes and thought I'd buy a box at Sportsman's Warehouse. But I won't turn down freebies if you don't need them. p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. Thanks Roy


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I am a big. big fan of the .284! I had 3 different 99s in the caliber but Ralph kept buying them from me. I had one made on a Mexican Mauser with a 24" barrel that i used for whitetails in Texas. It is a laser!

I've used nothing but 139 and 140 grain bullets in it. Has anyone loaded anything heavier for the 99?

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Mike when I got my first one I asked around and the guys on the fire pointed me to the 145 Speer btsp as being ideal for the short action 99 due to it's stubby shape and (advertised).502 ballistic coefficient. Not sure if the BC is actual or just advertising hype but the bullet shape is perfect for the Savages 2.8" OAL and the neck holds it well.

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A 99C in 284 is what got me into 99's way back in my teens, and I don't have one yet. Couple of DL's and an F in 284, but no 99C's.

Great cartridge.


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I looked at a 99c in 284 the other day ,had a scope ,cant remember what kind ,they wanted $1200 ! it wasn't a collector by any means but a good hunting gun.Its in a vermont gunshop. Don

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Had 2 Win 88, in 284 and 1 Savage 99 in 284 hunted with the Win 88 284 up here. Speer 145 gr bullet seemed to work the best with the short mag length required. Hunted with the 150 gr Nosler about like a slow 7-08 in a bolt rifle.


Win 88 in 284 was a lucky rifle for me though got a 52" Bull Moose and a Dall Ram with it. Win factory loads used a short 125 gr and 150 gr bullets to work in short mag confines.

Guess what I am saying is don't expect great bullet selection and bolt rifle performance in a 99 or 88 in 284 Winchester. Still a neat rifle.


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Originally Posted by Loggah
I looked at a 99c in 284 the other day ,had a scope ,cant remember what kind ,they wanted $1200 ! it wasn't a collector by any means but a good hunting gun.Its in a vermont gunshop. Don

Yeah, that seems to be the going price. Have seen some, but haven't run across one that fits my cheap purchasing habits. grin

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I’ve had 2 284s and both of them eventually went down the road. There was nothing wrong with them but I would keep asking myself the rhetorical question, what can this gun do that my 300s and 308s can’t do? Couldn’t come up with a good enough answer to keep a gun that cost 2x to own

284 definitely has a “cool” factor though. Kind of like the 250 Savage.

I would not be afraid to take a 284 on a mule deer or elk hunt though. Can’t say the same for the 250

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Originally Posted by 99guy
what can this gun do that my 300s and 308s can’t do?



You know what they say, if you have to ask.... LOL


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by 99guy
what can this gun do that my 300s and 308s can’t do?



You know what they say, if you have to ask.... LOL




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We have taken 4-5 deer with the 284. It’s all business and very accurate.


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The .284 was my first real deer rifle. I bought it in 1967 about the same time I started reloading rifle cartridges and IMR-4350 and 130 gr. Speer bullets were used in it. Killed my first deer with it a year later, one 315 yards, the other 298 yards. Furthest I've killed deer since then has been 125 yards. wink


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Jesus Roy

Is the 284 faster than a speeding bullet? Is it more powerful than a locomotive? Can it leap tall buildings in a single bound?

If not, it could never defeat Superman


You forgot cures cancer.


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Jesus Roy

Is the 284 faster than a speeding bullet? Is it more powerful than a locomotive? Can it leap tall buildings in a single bound?

If not, it could never defeat Superman


You forgot cures cancer.


You should be a 284 salesman...


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Originally Posted by 99guy

You should be a 284 salesman...



You see that rock, way over yonder way? Watch this. grin


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by 99guy

You should be a 284 salesman...



You see that rock, way over yonder way? Watch this. grin


Should somebody hold your beer?
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You should be a 284 salesman...



You see that rock, way over yonder way? Watch this. grin


Should somebody hold your beer rum?
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Yes please.

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Thanks Roy, will let you know when they arrive. Went ahead and got a box at Sportsman Warehouse. Figured I'd better. don't get out to the big city often. box of 100 was only $23.


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I sent you five rounds of my ammo to try in your rifle , if you wish. Otherwise, pull em.


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Great! Did you include the load data? I need to load some ammo for some other 99's and have a range day.


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Yes it's in there.


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They are probably at the post office. Had a package notice Sat. Went back today but p.o. was closed for MLK day. Going to doctor tomorrow so probably won't get them till Wed.


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