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First, thanks for all the replies. I see I’m in good Company here when it comes to interests in rifles Second, I see a lot of references to the 9.3x62. I have no experience and little knowledge of this round. Is it based on a .30-06 case? Yes and a great round. DF
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First, thanks for all the replies. I see I’m in good Company here when it comes to interests in rifles Second, I see a lot of references to the 9.3x62. I have no experience and little knowledge of this round. Is it based on a .30-06 case? Yes and a great round. DF No, it isn't based off the 30/06
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First, thanks for all the replies. I see I’m in good Company here when it comes to interests in rifles Second, I see a lot of references to the 9.3x62. I have no experience and little knowledge of this round. Is it based on a .30-06 case? Yes and a great round. DF No, it isn't based off the 30/06 It wasn't actually developed from the '06, you're right, but has very similar rim diameter and COAL So, it fits in a 3.4" mag and uses an '06 bolt face, it's sorta in that family. At least that's the way I think about it. DF
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Let’s say a fellow with more than a passing interest in rifles desired a hunting rifle in a caliber greater than the classic .30
Considering the availability of both .30-06 parent brass and actions, something descended from the grand .30-06 seems a good idea.
.35 Whelen and .338-06 both seem like good options.
Which would you choose and why? If your answer is something else, then why that instead? My answer is based upon the assumption that you’re a hand loader, and like versatility in your selection. Both have their advantages. With the .338 caliber, there is a large selection of bullets available both in weights and construction. The .35, while having a pretty fair selection as compared to 20 or so years ago .....still can’t complete with the .338. With velocities being very similar, a slight edge may go to to .35.....simply due to increased bullet diameter. In my mind, the biggest advantage of the .35 is it’s ability to shoot handgun bullets. Loading and shooting the handgun bullets, at slightly elevated handgun velocities, allow you to get a lot, of lower cost, lower recoil, year round practice with the firearm you will be hunting with in the fall! Or.....you could start casting Bullets for the .338, and accomplish the same thing! 🤔 memtb
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First, thanks for all the replies. I see I’m in good Company here when it comes to interests in rifles Second, I see a lot of references to the 9.3x62. I have no experience and little knowledge of this round. Is it based on a .30-06 case? Yes and a great round. DF If I did not have a 375 H&H, I would certainly have a 9.3x62.
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I sold my 06's when I built a 7-08 and a 338-06 Ackley to spread things out a bit.
My 30-06's always shot 180's at 2800, a 338-06 shoots 200's at 2800 w/o beating you up.......
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I went with the .35 Whelen. The 225 gr. TSX at 2700+ FPS has done in elk from 75 yards out to 350 yards which is about as I'd care shoot on anything. It just works. Paul B.
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I have owned both, several of each over the years. The only one I have now is a 338-06 JES rebored for me a few years back on an early 60's Rem 700. My go to bullet is a 210 Partition. Works great on deer and elk. I've used it out past 400 yds with ease and mine only weighs 7.5 scoped and loaded.
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I have owned both, several of each over the years. The only one I have now is a 338-06 JES rebored for me a few years back on an early 60's Rem 700. My go to bullet is a 210 Partition. Works great on deer and elk. I've used it out past 400 yds with ease and mine only weighs 7.5 scoped and loaded. What's your go to load with the 210 NPT? DF
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First, thanks for all the replies. I see I’m in good Company here when it comes to interests in rifles Second, I see a lot of references to the 9.3x62. I have no experience and little knowledge of this round. Is it based on a .30-06 case? Yes and a great round. DF If I did not have a 375 H&H, I would certainly have a 9.3x62. I had both. Traded the 9.3, kept the .375 H&H. The 9.3 was one I had traded for, an AHR full custom that was just about too pretty to take in the brush. I kept the .375 H&H, a SS NH M-70 with Tupperware. I had the barrel chopped and fluted to cut weight. No worry about scratching that one. They both shot very well. DF
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Have had two Whelens. If I was to do it again the 338-06 makes more sense to me in a hunting rifle.
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If you are buying factory ammo, go 35 Whelen, if you are reloading go 338-06 A-Square, I think that it's more efficient from a ballistic standpoint. If it were me, I'd probably go with the 9.3x62 if I wanted to keep the basic case size, or just download a 338 Winchester magnum. Agreed - having carried a 338-06 out West multiple times - you’ll find .35 Whelen ammo on the shelf long before 338-06. You’re reloading, so probably less of a factor, unless the ammo is separated from the rifle at some point in your travels.
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here is a pic of 270, 06, 9.3 side by side
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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Thanks for the links. That site seems pretty well written, so worth considering some of the author’s results.
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here is a pic of 270, 06, 9.3 side by side That 9.3 is a beast. Looks like fun
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I have had a Whelen, 2 338-06’s, and a 338-06AI. All are gone. If you need something big then get a 375 H&H. For all other uses a 30-06 is better.
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What are your experiences with the 9.3 and the .375? I’ve used the .375 for 19 years and the 9.3 for 7. During that time I’ve killed various brown bears, deer, and mountain goats with both.
Performance-wise I cannot tell a difference between my 9.3x62 and .375 with 286s and 300s except that one is lighter and holds more ammo.
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Think both rounds are smashers on game. It is unfortunate for the 338-06 that A Square screwed up the name. I'm pretty sure that game will never know the difference. Since I really prefer to have properly head stamped ammo, I give the Whelen the nod. MuleDeers writings make the 9.3 look pretty darn interesting. On the other hand, they're all interesting.
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I shot my first elk with a .338-06. I've had two .35 Whelens, a .35 Whelen Improved, a .375 Whelen Improved, and a .411 Hawk (similar to a .400 Whelen). All are gone now and none are missed.
Between the .338-06 and .35 Whelen, I'd probably go with the .338-06, probably because it can be made to shoot (a little) flatter. But, I think the .30-06 with a stout, accurate 200 grain bullet would be first choice over everything else.
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