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I'm happy to be wrong on that. If you're reloading it to factory specs please post the info.

Are any SF type units playing with that HK round the 4.6 or 4.7? Or is it dead.

The H&K USP-45 is often described as a tank of a gun. I wonder if it could hold up to .45 Super?

Just did a search, and someone on H&KPro.com seems pretty sure it can.

"YES!

The USP 45 can fire 45 Super all day long. . . no problem!"

Another comment on the question:

"Greg Bell shot 25 rounds of .45 Super through his HK45. At the time it had about 1,700 rounds through it. He now has over 8,000 rounds through the gun and it's running like a champ."

Who's Greg Bell?

Without a doubt just as it comes from the factory. Very accurate boot

By all accounts, it can.

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

Another response:

"I've shot a few hundred rounds of 45 super through my USP and Tactical with no problems. I took a hog with one a few years ago as well. You should be fine.

Doc"

The only anecdotal data I have on the .40 S&W was when a deer was hit by a car and one of our Sgts has to put it down. It was a mesium sized doe and he fired his issue Glock .40 directly into the back of its head from about 3 ft away and the bullet ricocheted off the skull....twice. He then used a knife to the throat.

Holy crap.

I believe so though I cannot, at this moment, recall where I read it. The fullsize Springfield XD will handle it, the Glock 21 and select 1911s. As with many things, it depends on who you ask.

I've got a HS6 load for the PPQ 45 that scoots the Lee 452-255-RF to 853 fps from a 4 1/4" Walther PPQ45. There's a little throttle left on that one, but I am familiar with those ballistics and satisfied with them.

Sarge, would it be advisable to put in a stronger spring, or just as it is? Someone at that other site said he fired a bunch of .45 Super through his USP-45, but was concerned about how it felt like it was banging hard against the stop, so he installed a stronger spring.

Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that a .40 S&W ricochets off the skulls of deer from 3'?

Do you honestly believe that?

That is what he said plus a few other colorful words directed at the round and the people that chose it! I picked up the deer for the meat and we did a necropsy on it. There were two dents in the skull about an inch apart inline between the ears. We cut off the back of the skull and it looked like a normal skull. Couldn’t recover the bullet to find out if they were to blame.

I like the 357 Sig too. It's a pretty hot round. Mine is a Glock 22 with a 6" KKM barrel.



My words above are more a generalization of the mass handgun market.

Holy crap a 40 bounced off a deers head!

Has anybody asked the manufacturers? What do they say?

Yes because I know the Sgt that shot it and I saw the deer and examined it. I skinned the skull and saw the dents in it. So I believe it fully. This was probably 15 years ago. I don’t remember the load they were using but I know they did some more testing and switched loads. A few years later they switched to .45 Glocks. Now they are using 9mms


There was also the guy who hit the deer watched him do it and said he wouldn’t have believed it if he didn’t see it. He was a gun owner and said he normally carried a .40 also

Which loading was used?