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They have reported finding multiple bullet holes in the fuselage. Does Shaq have an alibi?
Epstein didn't kill himself.
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Biden didn't win the election.
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And, and I tell you, they are .270 bullet holes!!!
I'd rather die in a BAD gunfight than a GOOD nursing home.
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Iranian missile perforations?
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I'd rather die in a BAD gunfight than a GOOD nursing home.
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Kareem Abdul jabar terror network
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Please read the thread. That ain't it.... I did read the thread. Hence the word "purported". Where's the fog? Video does not fit the witness account from the church. Not even close and with no fog. The terrain looks a lot different. Video shows a deep canyon, this wreckage is in a canyon, but not like that one. The guy at the church seemed to be a credible witness. I'd believe his account of low ceiling and fog, slow speed, hit ground as it exited the cloud.. DF
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And, and I tell you, they are .270 bullet holes!!! Nonsense, 270s dont penetrate.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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Basically he was scud running.He was at 1500ft and the ceiling as reported by ATC was 1100ft overcast so he definitely was flying into decaying conditions
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As deputy sheriff in Texas, I helped pick up small pieces of body at a small aircraft crash. I overheard one of the airport personnel refer to it as "the ground compromised their flight path."
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Inadvertent IMC. Climb and contact ATC. Someone forgot the rules.
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For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member.
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It all boils down to why a chopper was flying in that kind of weather- - - - - -"Rules don't apply to rich folks!"
there were other aircraft flying around in those MCs cause technology makes it possible. Now it seems the pilot could have gone IFR/IMC but chose not to?
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there were other aircraft flying around in those MCs cause technology makes it possible.
Now it seems the pilot could have gone IFR/IMC but chose not to?
That's my take on it as well.
"I'm gonna have to science the schit out of this." Mark Watney, Sol 59, Mars
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Listening to the radio traffic, back and forth, the first thing that got my attention was when the pilot said he was at 1400 feet and the controller said the ceiling was 1100, yet the pilot said he was VFR. He was told to maintain Special VFR, rogered he understood, but evidently he flew into the clouds at some point and lost sight of the ground. Being in mountainous terrain, that would have caused his sphincter muscle to contract, cutting off all oxygen to his ass. Since he was flying by the seat of his pants, he ran out of air and flew into the side of one of the cloud enshrouded/hidden mountains. Case closed.
"All that the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth." – Robert E. Lee
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Had an encounter with cumulo granite did they?
Saw an interview on Fox this eve where the fella being interviewed claimed Bryant was the smartest basketball player ever. That speaks poorly of Bryant's peers, mostly because it seems likely he could have hired a more competent pilot if he really was smart. I'm doubtful.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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maybe Kobe was worried about getting to ball practice late, but his pilot assured him that he will get them dead right on time.
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Had an encounter with cumulo granite did they?
Saw an interview on Fox this eve where the fella being interviewed claimed Bryant was the smartest basketball player ever. That speaks poorly of Bryant's peers, mostly because it seems likely he could have hired a more competent pilot if he really was smart. I'm doubtful. I imagine that pilot was competent. I read he had maintained an ATP since 2008. I also imagine that multi-millionaire, world famous Kobe Bryant must have made him an offer (to fly him and his party to the Mamba basketball tournament that Kobe was sponsoring and hosting) that he couldn't refuse. I imagine the pilot made a "business decision" that went bad. My neighbor, back in the late 1970s, was an on call biz jet pilot. He was sick of the work, but it paid the rent. The stories he told me, (of the demands of his rich and powerful clients) would curl your toes.
"All that the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth." – Robert E. Lee
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Had an encounter with cumulo granite did they?
Saw an interview on Fox this eve where the fella being interviewed claimed Bryant was the smartest basketball player ever. That speaks poorly of Bryant's peers, mostly because it seems likely he could have hired a more competent pilot if he really was smart. I'm doubtful. Reportedly had extremely high ACT scores, spoke three languages. Not the intellectual profile of your typical basketball player. DF
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RIP...I didn’t know choppers flew that fast.
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Had an encounter with cumulo granite did they?
Saw an interview on Fox this eve where the fella being interviewed claimed Bryant was the smartest basketball player ever. That speaks poorly of Bryant's peers, mostly because it seems likely he could have hired a more competent pilot if he really was smart. I'm doubtful.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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They have reported finding multiple bullet holes in the fuselage. If that were true, they wouldnt tell you.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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