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Or pick up a L461 action or rifle and your feed issues will disappear. I am in the process of building a 221 Fireball and 222 on one now. Controlled feed on this action and tough to beat Sako quality, right now they are the same or cheaper than a Rem 700.
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What do these 2 20's do that the 204 Ruger can't do?
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What do these 2 20's do that the 204 Ruger can't do? Nothing really. One could light load the 204 and duplicate the 20 VT. I have several of both, and use them on PDs and coyotes. To get philosophical, one could get a 30-06 and 22-250, load them up and down and pretty much cover all hunting in North America. But that would not be much fun.
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And the fun part is what I failed to consider. Thanks Dale.
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I have really considered doing the 20 Vartag Turbo, or aka 20/222.... Easy to neck down 223 case to a 222 and then neck down that to 20 caliber. I think that would be an easy thing to load for at the load bench... and don't go velocity crazy, that should make brass last a long time. a lot of vendors on line, were or are, out of bullets all the time.... but 17 and 20 caliber can be found pretty easily still... This past week, I have been playing with a Howa Mini Action in 223, playing with loads like 10 gr of Unique, or 11.5 grains of Blue Dot or Steel propelling a 40 gr V Max down range from 100 out to 200 yds....still getting good tight groups... easily minute of sage rat out to 200 yds, with a plain vanilla 3 x 9 Bushnell scope....prairie dogs would be no problem. even a sporter barrel isn't being heated up with 10 shots.. single fed... but the recoil is atrocious
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Would LOVE to see a photo of the .20 Vartarg. If you can get it with any (all!) of the above cartridges in for comparison, all the better.
something like this:
.17 HM2, .17 HMR, .17 WSM, .17 Hornet, .17 Fireball, 22 Hornet, .17 Remington, .20 "Vartarg" (.20 Fireball), .20 Practical, .223 Remington
as close as I can come at the moment! l to r 17 ackley hornet, 17 hebee, 17 mach iv, 17 fireball, 17 remington, 20 vartarg, 20 tactical, 22 hornet, 218 bee, 221 fireball 222 Rem, 223 Rem, 223 Rem AI, 22-250, 220 swift. and some Hornets....... 17 Hornady Hornet, 17 Ackley Hornet, 19 Calhoon, 22 Hornet. ya! GWB is that as good as you can do G Dub? you're slowing down in your old age my friend... you definitely have a fun toy box....
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This has turned into one of my most favorite threads on the campfire. Lots of good information that makes me want to go shoot.
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