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Both are very fine six guns,, built back when the gun makers were real craftsmen!
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Question: Why? Seriously. Just the same thing that comes to mind (for me) when speaking of a .357. The K frame is a great target/plinking or even defense gun. You yourself shoot 38s out of your 19. Why? Of course everyone knows why. The 357 is a stinker because its loud, obnoxious and if its needed in the K frame configuration it's better to just go to a fatter bullet or a heftier gun. The 357 as a game round, for all its rancor, is marginally better than a +P 38.
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I have a pair of model 64s that have been beyond great so something like that would get my vote
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Something different
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Question: Why? Seriously. Just the same thing that comes to mind (for me) when speaking of a .357. The K frame is a great target/plinking or even defense gun. You yourself shoot 38s out of your 19. Why? Of course everyone knows why. The 357 is a stinker because its loud, obnoxious and if its needed in the K frame configuration it's better to just go to a fatter bullet or a heftier gun. The 357 as a game round, for all its rancor, is marginally better than a +P 38. Like.
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Just adding a tenor note to the choir. S&W Model 14 with target grips is your huckleberry. If you want to get fancy look for one with the "three t's" - target trigger, target hammer and target grips. If you want a 4" barrel for some reason then S&W calls that the Model 15. i have one of those with the hammer, gripps, trigger. six inch. basically a one hole gun with wad cutters. great for tin cans.
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I have the same gun in single action only configuration. A 14-2.
They are very fine arms, but give up a bit to the accuracy of a Officer's Model Match or Target Colt, if judged from SA perspective, even if given the aftermarket attention that Smith's can summon.
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I sure do have fun with my 3" Model 64 on reactive targets at the range. Shooting mostly reloads with 158 Gr cast.
I did have some old early 1980's ammo and some surplus CAVIM that I shot up.
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Find yourself a nice 4 inch model 15 or 6 inch model 14 Smith. You will enjoy every minute.
I've got a really nice 15-4 Combat Masterpiece. I sure do like the looks of those 6" 14's though, too.
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Find yourself a nice 4 inch model 15 or 6 inch model 14 Smith. You will enjoy every minute.
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Find yourself a nice 4 inch model 15 or 6 inch model 14 Smith. You will enjoy every minute.
I've got a really nice 15-4 Combat Masterpiece. I sure do like the looks of those 6" 14's though, too. Very nice example of a pre-82 Combat Masterpiece.
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Find yourself a nice 4 inch model 15 or 6 inch model 14 Smith. You will enjoy every minute.
I've got a really nice 15-4 Combat Masterpiece. I sure do like the looks of those 6" 14's though, too. Very nice example of a pre-82 Combat Masterpiece. Yea....that's purty!
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Something different <like>
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I will join the crowd, a K38 or Model 14/Model 15. The Colt Officer's Models are very good as well. I reload 357 cases to 38 special loads as well, hate cleaning the cylinder with the 38's. Not a problem with a 38 specific.
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The Smith's mentioned above are no doubt top picks. I came across this Colt for cheap due to the hard chrome and stocks. It is mechanically perfect, crazy accurate and just a fun range gun.
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I agree with VarmintGuy. I have probably shot more 38 sp loads in .357 cases in my 686 .357 mag than I have .357 loads.
Years ago when.357 brass was harder to come buy, (more expensive ) I amassed lot of 38 sp from range pickups at bullseye target matches. .The other day I weighed it and I have about 2200 rounds. I don't have a 38 sp handgun except my wife's Lady Smith, but I have three each.357 magnums . Now I have more than that in.357 brass so I have no use for the 38 brass.
I usually load 4.5 grs of Universal Clays or W231, with a 158 gr cast bullet.The Clays, I found to be a lot cleaner burning, but I came upon an 8 pound jug of W231 for free and you can load a LOT of rounds at 4.5 grains with f 8 pounds of powder. Dittos! All I shoot out of my 357's are 38 spl loads in 357 brass, the same Universal load saddlesore. Starline brass is plentiful now, stock up.
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A .38/44 Smith makes a great paper puncher.
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I personally see no reason to go out and buy a .38 special gun just to shoot .38 special-level loads out of, especially if you already have a .357, unless you're just looking for an excuse to buy one. In that case, knock yourself out.
I currently have two .357's, a scandium snubby J frame, and a 3" model 60 with adjustable sights. The snubby is mostly for business, but I do enjoy the heck out of shooting the 3" model 60 using .38 special level loads. I had a 4" SP 101 too, but after I got the model 60, I decided the Ruger was heavier than what I needed and not as smooth as the Smith, so I sold it.
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